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<p>Hi Stephen,</p>
<p>I think we need to be careful not to put vague or conflicting
criteria to conference bidders. We as a committee should resolve
our differences and develop an evaluation criteria before we ask
cities to bid. We should then evaluate proposals against this
criteria.</p>
<p>Historically, rest of world events have lower attendance, because
US and Europe attract more attendees. See:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G#Overview_of_past_conferences_and_attendances">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G#Overview_of_past_conferences_and_attendances</a></p>
<p>FOSS4G 2015 Seoul, South Korea 562<br>
FOSS4G 2012 Beijing, China cancelled<br>
FOSS4G 2009 Sydney, Australia 436<br>
FOSS4G 2008 Cape Town, South Africa 550<br>
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This means that Rest of World events could potentially select a
smaller venue, cap attendance to say 500 to 600, and keep prices
down. If we agree with that, it should be included in the proposal.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/09/2016 2:44 AM, Maria Antonia
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<div>Excellent summary! Many thanks! </div>
<div>I agree with your proposal ;-)</div>
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Date: 12/09/2016 18:28 (GMT+01:00) <br>
To: conference <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"><conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org></a> <br>
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<div class="PlainText">I think there are two distinct points
of view here - those who want to find a way to run a lower
cost event (perhaps reducing catering, entertainment and
venue costs) and those who believe that we should continue
with something close to the current model which will have a
higher cost. I know that I have simplified the points of
view expressed.<br>
<br>
I would like to suggest that we encourage bidders for 2018
to consider new models of organisation, catering, venue etc
to offer a lower cost alternative whilst not mandating a
lower cost or indicating a single preferred option. Let’s
see what budget models the bidders propose and then the
conference committee will discuss the pros and cons of the
different options (and there will certainly be pros and cons
for each bid) and then we will vote.<br>
<br>
Hopefully we will also receive feedback from the wider
community during the questions phase of the process.<br>
<br>
I have nearly finished the revisions to the RfP document for
2018 and I will endeavour to articulate both options in the
evaluation criteria. I hope to share the draft RfP with the
list for comment before the end of the week and then to
finalise it for release by 26th September at the latest and
hopefully before.<br>
______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
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> On 12 Sep 2016, at 16:45, Maria Antonia Brovelli
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"><maria.brovelli@polimi.it></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> Gert-Jan brings it to the point in my eyes.<br>
> <br>
> Beside what he said we know that it is very difficult
to separate attendees within a venue between "eaters" and
"non-eaters".<br>
> Many people liked the way we did with almost no
controls. There was only one at the main entrance, after
that you could be anywhere.<br>
> So, do we want somebody to control every badge before
someone takes a plate of food or a drink?<br>
> <br>
> Again, in my eyes the point is to differentiate between
smaller (and cheaper with less comfort) regional events and
a global FOSS4G - where total costs of attendance ("TCA")
are higher simply because of travel, accommodation and
higher costs. One important point to aim on (there was a
discussion in that direction few weeks ago) in my eyes is to
bridge our community together with neighboured communities,
business and large public administrations - which requires a
"professional" conference with the potential to host up to
1000 attendees.<br>
> <br>
> And hey, do we really want to replace the cost-barrier
(which is only to a minor part due to the TCA) with a
restricted-places barrier?<br>
> Come on, keep being realistic!<br>
> <br>
> I am convinced that success of past FOSS4G global
events speaks for itself (++800 attendees on all events in
NA and Europe since 2010), so why change such a success
story, going back to Universities and loose contact to
institutions that are really important for the growth of
FOSS4G-Community as a whole?<br>
> <br>
> Please don't do that!<br>
> <br>
> Till<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Am 2016-09-12 10:13, schrieb Gert-Jan van der Weijden
(OSGeo.nl):<br>
>> Maria, others,<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> First of all: I hope this thread is not meant to
discuss the<br>
>> Boston-2017 setup, but the financial aspect of 2018
and onward. Boston<br>
>> 2017 is on it's way, based upon the bid they
presented.<br>
>> <br>
>> As a member of the Bonn-2016 LOC, and as visitor of
FOSS4G-2015 Como,<br>
>> and 2 local German speaking events (FOSSGIS) in
2015 (Münster) and<br>
>> 2013 (Rapperswil) I note that there is a main
difference between a<br>
>> less than 500 attendees event (at an university:
Como, Münster,<br>
>> Rapperswill), and more than 500 attendees event,
which due to it's<br>
>> size almost by definition have to take place at a
commercial congress<br>
>> center. The latter brings more luxury (whether you
like it or not)<br>
>> since that's congress centers focus.<br>
>> Standard package deals with congress centers'
preferred suppliers for<br>
>> catering, technique etc. almost can't be avoided,
unless you pay a<br>
>> sort of penalty fee.<br>
>> <br>
>> Other expenses, including recorded and/or
live-streaming video are a<br>
>> relative small part of the total expenses.
Availability of cheap<br>
>> flights and/or cheap hotel accommodation has a far
greater impact on<br>
>> the TCA (total costs of attending).<br>
>> <br>
>> Organizing a FOSS4G in the Como/Münster/Rapperswil
way; at a relative<br>
>> low cost venue such a university keeps the costs
low, but almost<br>
>> certainly will face you with the fact that demand
(number of potential<br>
>> attendees) will be higher than supply (the number
of available seats).<br>
>> That's a serious consideration to be made. And if
so: would one<br>
>> reserve a certain amount of ticket for each
continent/local chapter/OS<br>
>> Geo project?<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Kind regards,<br>
>> <br>
>> Gert-Jan<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Maria Antonia Brovelli schreef op 12-09-2016 0:23:<br>
>>> One possibility is to consider different fees.
As an example you can<br>
>>> see the fees for last ISPRS Conference in
Prague (8 days of<br>
>>> conference):<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.isprs2016-prague.com/fees/">http://www.isprs2016-prague.com/fees/</a><br>
>>> Personally I prefer to eat simply a sandwich
and be able to pay the<br>
>>> registration for a PhD student of mine ;-)<br>
>>> Why not consider a basic fee of 100 dollar/day
and a full one with<br>
>>> lunches and gala dinner?<br>
>>> Maria<br>
>>> Maria<br>
>>> ISPRS 2016 - Fees & Registration [3]<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.isprs2016-prague.com">www.isprs2016-prague.com</a><br>
>>> Registration for Financial Assistance for the
XXIII ISPRS Congress.<br>
>>> Deadline for Financial Assistance applications
20 March 12 p.m. CET.<br>
>>>
----------------------------------------------------<br>
>>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>
>>> Vice Rector for Como Campus and GIS Professor<br>
>>> Politecnico di Milano<br>
>>> ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud
mapping (C3M)"; OSGeo;<br>
>>> ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind
Europa Challenge; SIFET<br>
>>> <br>
>>> SOL KATZ AWARD 2015<br>
>>> Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALY)<br>
>>> Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 -
fax. +39-031-3327321<br>
>>> e-mail1: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a><br>
>>> e-mail2: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a><br>
>>> -------------------------<br>
>>> DA: Steven Feldman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com"><shfeldman@gmail.com></a><br>
>>> INVIATO: domenica 11 settembre 2016 23.39<br>
>>> A: Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>
>>> CC: Michael Terner; Venkatesh Raghavan; Guido
Stein; conference<br>
>>> OGGETTO: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Handbook -
Financial expectations<br>
>>> Maria<br>
>>> Could you share some of the numbers from your
conference:<br>
>>> Venue fees<br>
>>> Number of delegates<br>
>>> Number of streams<br>
>>> Cost for video<br>
>>> Catering cost per head<br>
>>> Icebreaker<br>
>>> Gala night<br>
>>> Other major costs<br>
>>> Do you think you would have been able to
accommodate 800-900 people at<br>
>>> those rates in that venue? If so we should look
at Como for 2019.<br>
>>> I think the economics will vary for each city
and venue. Perhaps we<br>
>>> should make it clear that we would welcome
alternative venue and cost<br>
>>> proposals that potentially make the event
cheaper to attend without<br>
>>> excluding the possibility of a higher priced
venue. If we get options<br>
>>> running between say $200 for the 3 days and
$650 then the conference<br>
>>> committee will have an interesting choice to
make.<br>
>>> For 2018 we could also express our desire to
make the event as<br>
>>> accessible as possible and see what options are
submitted?<br>
>>> ______<br>
>>> Steven<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On 11 Sep 2016, at 22:28, Maria Antonia
Brovelli<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"><maria.brovelli@polimi.it></a> wrote:<br>
>>>> Dear Michael, I wonder how it was possible
for me to organize a<br>
>>>> conference with a fee of 100 euro for 3
days ( 50 euro for<br>
>>>> students). I understand that Boston is more
expensive than Como. But<br>
>>>> more than three times? Is it not possible
to organize the conference<br>
>>>> at one university? Keeping the costs low
means giving more<br>
>>>> possibility of participation to the people
of our community.<br>
>>>> Many thanks!<br>
>>>> Maria<br>
>>>> Sent from my Samsung device<br>
>>>> -------- Original message --------<br>
>>>> From: Michael Terner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgt@appgeo.com"><mgt@appgeo.com></a><br>
>>>> Date: 11/09/2016 18:49 (GMT+01:00)<br>
>>>> To: Venkatesh Raghavan
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com"><venka.osgeo@gmail.com></a>, Michael Terner<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mgt@appgeo.com"><mgt@appgeo.com></a>, Guido Stein
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gstein@appgeo.com"><gstein@appgeo.com></a><br>
>>>> Cc: conference
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"><conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Handbook -
Financial expectations<br>
>>>> As the group in the "on deck circle", this
has been a very<br>
>>>> interesting and important thread to read. I
hope that sharing the<br>
>>>> Boston team's outlook and perspective is
useful to this<br>
>>>> conversation. Indeed, many of the things we
believe and are pursuing<br>
>>>> are already reflected:<br>
>>>> * As Venka observes, we are not pursuing a
"budget venue"<br>
>>>> approach. We are in a large, urban city and
as Steven wrote the<br>
>>>> economics for finding this kind of space
make $100/day really,<br>
>>>> really difficult (if not impossible). But,
we also believe we are in<br>
>>>> a desirable location with a dynamic tech
city and an incredible<br>
>>>> academic community that will help draw
interest. We also want to<br>
>>>> create a local, regional and USA buzz so
that Boston is The Place to<br>
>>>> Be for understanding some of the
international trends in geo open<br>
>>>> source, and even the _ geo industry_ more
broadly. As Eddie Pickle<br>
>>>> has observed, why shouldn't FOSS4G be the
#2 "geo event" on the<br>
>>>> planet? In other words, one of our goals is
to attract _more_ people<br>
>>>> who will be able to pay the full costs of
the conference. From our<br>
>>>> vantage, this shouldn't be a "low budget
affair", it should be an<br>
>>>> important "international happening."<br>
>>>> * That said, we fully understand the
reality and necessity to keep<br>
>>>> the show as affordable as possible, and
that there are very<br>
>>>> important communities that we would like to
have attend where the<br>
>>>> published costs will be a challenge. We
have plans for student<br>
>>>> volunteers and other kinds of discounts
already. But, the way that<br>
>>>> some of the conference economics work,
there is a tipping point<br>
>>>> where a larger conference actually can be a
lower of the core<br>
>>>> conference costs (i.e., the venue, wifi,
video, etc.) are prorated<br>
>>>> across more people. We want to be the first
FOSS4G to draw >1,000<br>
>>>> people and we think we have a good shot at
it. We also are going to<br>
>>>> be very aggressive in pursuing sponsorship,
both from the<br>
>>>> established sponsor community, but also
from first time sponsors,<br>
>>>> and tech companies in Boston. This too will
help generate revenue<br>
>>>> and control costs. If we meet our
attendance and sponsorship goals,<br>
>>>> we will return a significant profit to
OSGeo and we hope that those<br>
>>>> profits can be used for the kinds of
programs that Eli mentioned,<br>
>>>> i.e., committees that distribute travel
grants; or provide support<br>
>>>> to events in the developing world; etc.
Indeed, we have already<br>
>>>> proposed to follow Cameron's suggestion and
expressed our return of<br>
>>>> profit to OSGeo as a percentage. Our
proposal states returning 80%<br>
>>>> of profits up to $100K, and 100% of profits
that are above $100k<br>
>>>> should we be lucky enough to be that
successful.<br>
>>>> Having just returned from Bonn, we are more
excited and more<br>
>>>> committed than ever (I just posted a blog
on my impressions and<br>
>>>> experiences [1]). And, we believe we can
follow Till's and the Bonn<br>
>>>> LOC's example in making this an exciting
and dynamic event in a<br>
>>>> unique part of the world. Bonn's World
Conference Center venue was<br>
>>>> worth its cost and added greatly to the
event. We believe people<br>
>>>> will come to this kind of event; and we are
equally committed in<br>
>>>> using the paying audience as a means of
controlling costs and/or<br>
>>>> providing discounts to those who need them.<br>
>>>> All the best...<br>
>>>> MT<br>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Venkatesh
Raghavan<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com"><venka.osgeo@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
>>>> I do not think we need to select a "budget
venue".<br>
>>>> Wonderful venues (perhaps, better than what
we have seen thus far)<br>
>>>> are available at a lower price in
low-income countries.<br>
>>>> I do not talk of any compromise on "core
items" expected in<br>
>>>> FOSS4G conferences. Is video streaming a
"core item" which<br>
>>>> was only recently possible in FOSS4G
conferences?<br>
>>>> If we say that this is a "core item", that
is as good as<br>
>>>> saying that FOSS4G conferences will be
organized only in<br>
>>>> OECD countries.<br>
>>>> Venka<br>
>>>> On 9/10/2016 5:29 PM, Cameron Shorter
wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Venka,<br>
>>>> I think that you are on the right track
discussing "lower budget"<br>
>>>> foss4g<br>
>>>> conference in "lower income" countries.<br>
>>>> While the Global FOSS4G is firstly an
international "gathering of<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> tribes" and should prioritise needs of the
international attendees,<br>
>>>> we<br>
>>>> should recognise that historically over
half the attendees come from<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> local region. I agree that it makes sense
to see what can be done to<br>
>>>> help attract local attendees. If that means
minimising costs, maybe<br>
>>>> by<br>
>>>> selecting budget venues etc, then a LOC
should have the flexibility<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> suggest such options. However, selection
budget options, should not<br>
>>>> translate to reducing the core items which
are expected in FOSS4G<br>
>>>> conferences.<br>
>>>> Warm regards, Cameron<br>
>>>> On 10/09/2016 1:47 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan
wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Cameron,<br>
>>>> My comments inline.<br>
>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Venka,<br>
>>>> Thanks for suggesting specific ideas to
implement.<br>
>>>> For this email thread, I'd like to focus on
your suggestions related<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> financial expectations, so we can take it
through to resolution.<br>
>>>> Namely,<br>
>>>> your item 5. Defining how profit should be
returned to OSGeo.<br>
>>>> I suggest it is safer to define budget
returned to OSGeo as a<br>
>>>> percentage<br>
>>>> of profit. As profit closely aligns with
number of attendees, profit<br>
>>>> will be larger for larger events. Europe
and US have historically<br>
>>>> attracted larger attendance than "Rest of
World" and hence will<br>
>>>> return<br>
>>>> larger profit. As such, OSGeo should expect
to earn less in "Rest of<br>
>>>> World" years.<br>
>>>> Yes, I agree with above. However "Rest of
the World" include only<br>
>>>> low-income countries and not high-income
countries like Australia,<br>
>>>> Japan, Korea etc. FOSS4G Conferences in
low-income countries may<br>
>>>> spend<br>
>>>> less (lower venue and food costs) and also
earn less compared to<br>
>>>> events<br>
>>>> in Europe and North America.<br>
>>>> I thought the RFP defined an expected
budget to be returned to<br>
>>>> OSGeo<br>
>>>> under conservative estimates, but I can't
find reference to it.<br>
>>>> (Maybe<br>
>>>> someone else can point to it).<br>
>>>> For management of special interest programs
and sponsorship, I<br>
>>>> suggest<br>
>>>> refer to the email thread "FOSS4G
Simplicity" started by Eli Adam,<br>
>>>> suggesting the be coordinated outside of
the FOSS4G LOC (Like the<br>
>>>> academic track).<br>
>>>> I agree to making thinks easier and simpler
coordinating Academic<br>
>>>> Track,<br>
>>>> Awards, Travel Grants outside the LoC.<br>
>>>> Best<br>
>>>> Venka<br>
>>>> On 9/09/2016 10:03 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
wrote:<br>
>>>> My Comments inline.<br>
>>>> On 9/9/2016 7:40 AM, Steven Feldman wrote:<br>
>>>> Maria<br>
>>>> Nice image, what are you suggesting in
terms of the RfP? ______<br>
>>>> Steven<br>
>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 22:03, Maria Antonia
Brovelli<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"><maria.brovelli@polimi.it></a> wrote:<br>
>>>> <equity.jpg><br>
>>>> Dear Cameron I prefer to take into account
the differences among<br>
>>>> countries. We want to elicit people
developing and using open<br>
>>>> source and we want to walk all together
toward this result.<br>
>>>> Equality often is not the best choice. Best
regards Maria<br>
>>> +1 for Maria's suggestion.<br>
>>> I would suggest the following;<br>
>>> 1) There was some comment on issue of too many
people<br>
>>> requesting for free conference passes.<br>
>>> We need to clearly decide a guideline for
offering free passes.<br>
>>> Free passes only offered to main Workshop
Trainer, Keynote speakers<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> student volunteers? Apart from that *no one*
gets a free pass.<br>
>>> 2) continue the discounted conference fee model
for<br>
>>> low-income countries. This model has been
successfully<br>
>>> used in FOSS4G-2015<br>
>>> 3) Offer Travel support only for participants
who are<br>
>>> have their presentation accepted at the FOSS4G
conference.<br>
>>> 4) Are we considering live streaming in future
FOSS4G events?<br>
>>> In that case, request local chapters to
organize local "FOSS4GFest"<br>
>>> during the duration of the main FOSS4G
Conference and<br>
>>> take advantage of watching the live-streaming
along with<br>
>>> the local community members who are unable to
physically make it<br>
>>> to the FOSS4G event.<br>
>>> 5) Consider recommending LoC to return a
minimum fixed amount<br>
>>> of profit to OSGeo. Taking into account, that
OSGeo annual<br>
>>> budget for 2015 is $75,000, we could consider
having $50K-$60K<br>
>>> returned from the profit to OSGeo foundation
when FOSS4G is<br>
>>> organized in high-income countries and
$25K-$30K when FOSS4G<br>
>>> is organized in low-income countries (they can
retain part of<br>
>>> the profit for organizing events to grow local
communities, but<br>
>>> should submit a budget report in subsequent
FOSS4G conferences<br>
>>> as to how the profits were used). This will
help the foundation to<br>
>>> sustain the "Travel Grant", "Student Award" and
"Code Sprint" at<br>
>>> FOSS4G events.<br>
>>> 6) If the LoC of FOSS4G event is able to
generate more profit<br>
>>> that stated in item 5 above, let them have a
say in planning<br>
>>> how such "extra" profit will be used in future.<br>
>>> 7) Consider a upper cap on the conference
registration fee.<br>
>>> I would suggest $100/day of conference event
when organized<br>
>>> in high-income countries. This would be much
lower when FOSS4G<br>
>>> is organized in a low-income country<br>
>>> Best<br>
>>> Venka<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> Sent from my Samsung device<br>
>>>> -------- Original message -------- From:
Cameron Shorter<br>
>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a> Date:
08/09/2016 22:53 (GMT+01:00) To:<br>
>>>> conference
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"><conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org></a> Subject: Re:<br>
>>>> [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Handbook - Financial
expectations<br>
>>>> Ok, lets start working through Steven's
list one item at a time,<br>
>>>> starting a new email thread for each.<br>
>>>> Once we have resolution (probably
concluding with a vote) we can<br>
>>>> finalise it in the foss4g handbook.<br>
>>>> On 8/09/2016 9:12 PM, Steven Feldman wrote:<br>
>>>> 1) Overall financial expectations re
surplus and sharing of<br>
>>>> surplus with OSGeo - possibly setting
slightly different<br>
>>>> expectations for RoW to NA & EU<br>
>>> We have draft principles on Finances in the
handbook here:<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances</a>
[4]<br>
>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances[4]"><https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Finances
[4]></a><br>
>>> I suggest using this existing text as the basis
for guidance. I<br>
>>> personally think it has the right principles in
place. In<br>
>>> particular, it is recommending each conference
aim to hand over a<br>
>>> fixed percentage of profits as surplus to
OSGeo. 85% is suggested.<br>
>>> I prefer this advise over the suggestion that
low income countries<br>
>>> retain more profit.<br>
>>> -- Cameron Shorter M +61 419 142 254 [5]<br>
>>> _______________________________________________
Conference_dev<br>
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