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<p>Thanks Maria for pointing out the 100% quorum from the board
processes. I'm supportive of your suggestion for using the board
voting procedures with the 50% quorum amendment.</p>
<p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/09/2016 9:05 AM, Darrell Fuhriman
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<div class="">I agree that 100% for a quorum is unnecessary and
50% seems reasonable to me.</div>
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quorum = 100 %. A minimum 50 % quorum is milder and
takes into account that for some reason some of the
members don't have the possibility of voting. I prefer
this second option.</div>
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class="">Therefore I'm positive with the proposal
adding the 50 % quorum.</div>
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<b class="">Inviato:</b><span
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Fuhriman; massimiliano cannata<br class="">
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<b class="">Oggetto:</b><span
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[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] MOTION : Conference Committee
- Updating Membership Policies and Process</font>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">Thanks Maxi for the suggestion. I like
it.<br class="">
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">I agree that the board voting processes
are good. I'd actually prefer to use them as
written, without addition of a mention of "needing
50% of members to vote".</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">My reasons:</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">1. It retains consistency between
committees.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">2. It will still work within a weakened
committee (with many inactive members)</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">Maria, Venka, others,</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
class="">Do you have any objections to adopting
board voting procedures?<span
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/09/2016 1:48 AM,
Darrell Fuhriman wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">This seems
perfectly reasonable to me.
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<div class="">On Sep 21, 2016, at 05:50,
massimiliano cannata <<a
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Cameron and
Steven,
<div class="">as a suggestion why don't
you take the well tested procedure
adopted at board level [1]?</div>
<div class="">(And herein after reported
for shake of semplicity...)</div>
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170); font-size: 1.8em; line-height:
1.3; font-family: 'linux libertine',
georgia, times, serif;" lang="en">Board
Voting Procedure</h1>
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class="gmail-mw-headline"
id="gmail-Purpose">Purpose</span></h2>
<div class="" style="margin: 0.5em
0px; line-height: inherit;">This
document explains the voting
procedure for motions put
forward to the OSGeo Board of
Directors.</div>
<h2 class="" style="font-weight:
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Process</span></h2>
<ul class="" style="margin: 0.3em
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<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Board
voting occurs during monthly
meetings, as well as a
followup vote through email</li>
<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">each
Board member may vote “+1” to
indicate support for the
motion.</li>
<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">each
Board member may vote “-1” to
veto a motion, but must
provide clear reasoning and
alternate approaches to
resolving the problem within
the two business days.</li>
<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">A
vote of "-0" indicates mild
disagreement, but has no
effect. A "0" indicates no
opinion. A "+0" indicate mild
support, but has no effect.</li>
<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">A
motion will be passed once all
of the Board members place a
vote, and no vetoes are
received (-1).</li>
<li class=""
style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">If
a motion is vetoed, and it
cannot be revised to satisfy
all parties, then it can be
resubmitted for an override
vote, in which a majority of
all Board members indicating
+1 is required to pass it.</li>
</ul>
</div>
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<div class="">Maybe you could change "A
motion will be passed once all of the
Board members place a vote" with "A
motion will be passed once 50% of the
Board members place a vote"...</div>
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<div class="">Best,</div>
<div class="">Maxi</div>
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<div class="">[1]<span
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class="">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure</a><br
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-09-21
13:58 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter<span
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href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br
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<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hi
Maria,</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I
think we need to ensure that any
rules we put in place will be
viable under both robust and
weakened committees. A simple
test is "Would these guidelines
work within a flagging
committee?" Eg: What if 8 out of
11 of the members have become
inactive and are uncontactable?
Would these guidelines still
work?</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Note
also that committee members are
volunteers and we can't
"require" them to vote. We can
"request" they vote, maybe even
go as far as "expecting" them to
vote.</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I'll
propose alternative text. As it
stands, I think Steven's words
are a better starting point to
work from. (I'm aware he put a
lot of time into it, and it went
through a number of iterations
of reviews, which is partly why
I think it is well worded).</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Suggested
alternative text (which includes
the 50% of members voting):<br
class="">
</div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i
class=""><span class=""
style="color: rgb(37, 37,
37); font-family:
sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal;
text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none;
white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); float: none;
display: inline !important;">Everyday
topics will be decided upon
by an open vote of all
committee members in a
clearly designated separate
mail thread (+1/-1) over a
minimum of two business
days. We will aim to ensure
at least 50% of members
vote. Ideally we aim for
consensus falling back on
simple majority vote where
necessary. The result will
be clearly declared
afterwards (or whatever is
decided).</span></i></div>
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<div class="">On 21/09/2016
5:06 PM, Maria Antonia
Brovelli wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">Below my first
motion about voting
motions </div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">When
a motion is presented, a
quorum of 50% has to be
reached in order to
consider valid the vote.
Reached this threshold,
the majority rule is
adopted.</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">If
there is no majority
consensus, the members
who didn't vote are
required to vote ( ar
least one of them). In
case of parity, the
motion is discussed
again until a
convergence is found. </div>
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class=""
style="font-size:
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face="HelveticaNeue">If
anyone has more
comments or
suggestions that
they wish to make
please get them by
18.00 GMT on 22nd
September. Voting
the motion will be
open then and up to
25 September 18 pm.</font></div>
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style="font-size:
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Date: 20/09/2016 20:25
(GMT+01:00)<span
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To: Maria Antonia Brovelli<span
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href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"
target="_blank" class=""><maria.brovelli@polimi.it></a><span
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Cc: conference<span
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf]
[Board] MOTION : Conference
Committee - Updating
Membership Policies and
Process<span
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<div class="">Thanks Maria
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</div>
<div class="">I support a
>50% must vote and
the majority of the
voters to decide. Did
you mean to not have a
veto in CC voting? <br
class="">
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class="">
</div>
<div class="">Can you
redraft the motion and
post the new motion as
a new thread for
people to comment on
with a cutoff when
voting starts<br
class="">
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class=""
style="border-collapse:
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line-height:
normal;
border-spacing:
0px;">______<br
class="">
Steven<br class="">
<br class="">
</span></div>
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<div class="">On
20 Sep 2016, at
19:12, Maria
Antonia Brovelli
<<a
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href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank" class="">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
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style="word-wrap:
break-word;">
<div class="">If
we are
speaking about
less than one
vote per
month,
probably it is
not so hard
for at least
the half of
the people to
vote. </div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">I
propose again
formally:
quorum at 50%
and majority
for the
acceptance of
the motion.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Many
thanks for
everything.</div>
<div class="">Maria </div>
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class="">
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Date:
20/09/2016
11:51
(GMT+01:00)<span
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To: Maria
Antonia
Brovelli <<a
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target="_blank"
class="">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>><span
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Cc: conference
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Subject: Re:
[OSGeo-Conf]
[Board] MOTION
: Conference
Committee -
Updating
Membership
Policies and
Process<span
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class="">
<br class="">
<div class="">Maria
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class="">
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<div class="">There
are very few
votes in the
CC, I am not
sure of the
exact number
but I would
guess that it
is less than
10 per year.</div>
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class="">
</div>
<div class="">The
votes that I
recall in the
last year have
been to
appoint you
and Till as
members of the
committee, to
appoint me as
chairman and
the votes for
the 2 stages
of the 2017
RfP process.
Perhaps
someone else
can correct
me?</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">I
am going to
back out of
this
discussion
until others
to propose an
alternative if
they wish. <br
class="">
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class=""
style="border-collapse:
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0px;
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none;
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normal;
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0px;">______<br
class="">
Steven<br
class="">
<br class="">
</span></div>
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<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">
<div class="">On
20 Sep 2016,
at 10:32,
Maria Antonia
Brovelli <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"
target="_blank"
class="">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="">
<div
dir="auto"
class="">
<div class="">Dear
Steven, as
already said I
don't agree on
the voting
mechanism and,
as you have
seen, there is
not a
consensus. I
prefer that we
before "solve"
this
question. </div>
<div class="">And
sorry for
asking you
again, you who
have been
doing so much
work for this
Committee (
thanks a
lot!!!):
nobody
answered me
about how many
motions were
voted in the
last year. I
want to put
myself in
Cameron's
clothes (
literally
translated
from italian;
��probably in
English you
don't have
this
expression. In
any case it is
like "point of
view") and
understand
pragmatically
how much
commitment was
and is implied
with respect
to voting.</div>
<div class="">Thanks
again and have
a nice day</div>
<div class="">Maria </div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
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class="">
</div>
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class="">
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style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(87, 87, 87);">Sent from my Samsung
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From: Steven
Feldman <<a
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class="">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>><span
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Date:
19/09/2016
23:16
(GMT+01:00)<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
To: Maria
Antonia
Brovelli <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it"
target="_blank"
class="">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>>,
Venka <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:venka.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">venka.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Cc:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank"
class="">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>,
conference
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.<wbr
class="">org</a>>,
Cameron
Shorter <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Subject: Re:
[OSGeo-Conf]
[Board] MOTION
: Conference
Committee -
Updating
Membership
Policies and
Process<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""
style="direction: inherit;">Maria (and Venka)</div>
<div class=""
style="direction: inherit;"><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""
style="direction: inherit;">My problem is that there are now 77 mails in
this thread
and I am not
sure whether
you and Venka
voted against
our vetoed. If
you did veto,
how do the
substantial
majority of
the committee
who voted in
favour find a
way to
resolve?</div>
<div class=""
style="direction: inherit;"><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""
style="direction: inherit;">To me this doesn't seem a very effective way
of reaching a
decision on a
relatively
minor
procedural
change which
apparently is
not very
different to
the procedures
in some other
committees.</div>
<br class="">
Steven
<div class="">07958
924 101</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
On 19 Sep
2016, at
21:57, Cameron
Shorter <<a
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target="_blank"
class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br
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<div
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0px;
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0px;" class="">Hi
Maria,</div>
<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
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0px;" class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
margin-bottom:
0px;" class="">What
I've noticed
as part of
many OSGeo
Committees is
that after a
while, some of
the members
become less
active and
less
responsive,
and that is
ok.<br
class="">
</div>
<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
margin-bottom:
0px;" class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
margin-bottom:
0px;" class="">A
typical
person's
engagement is
a little like
a bell curve.
They start off
being
respectful and
quite during a
learning
phase, then
get engaged
and
productive,
often solving
a particular
"itch", then
involvement
tapers off as
the person's
interest are
reprioritised.
When that
person becomes
less active,
they typically
have excellent
advise based
on experience,
worth
listening too.
However,
because the
project is not
the person's
primary focus
they are not
monitoring or
voting on
day-to-day
project
activities.<br
class="">
</div>
<div
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0px;
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0px;" class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
margin-bottom:
0px;" class="">I'm
suggesting our
committee
guidelines
should allow
for this
engagement
pattern,
allowing old
hands to
provide advise
when they have
time and when
practical.<br
class="">
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">On
20/09/2016
6:36 AM, Maria
Antonia
Brovelli
wrote:<br
class="">
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<div
style="margin-top:
0px;
margin-bottom:
0px;" class="">Cameron,
I understand
your position.
Anyway I think
that more
people
participating
to a
discussion and
taking
decision is
better than
few. And,
again, which
is the problem
in voting?
Once you read
a motion, if
it is a simple
one, it is
easy to answer
with 0 or +1
(it requires
just a couple
of seconds).
If there are
doubts, better
to discuss it
in such a way
to find a
larger
consensus.
Sorry, but I
really don't
see the
problem.</div>
<div
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0px;
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0px;" class="">Cheers.</div>
<div
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