<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">We have never thought about this in the selection process. Should we? I am not sure. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are so many countries that have legal and societal norms that are discriminatory against one group or another - think LGBTQ, religion, visa restrictions on entry - the list will be quite long.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just on the LGBTQ legislation there are 73 countries that are shown at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory</a> Should we be excluding these countries from hosting FOSS4G or should we be providing guidance to our community on the constraints of attending an event in these countries? We are committed to promoting diversity but it could be that in doing that we limit diversity.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No answers, just some questions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For 2018 we can ask the LOC to provide security information to all delegates (ideally in advance of registration). For future years we need guidance from the Board as to how to proceed.</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Feb 2018, at 08:36, María Arias de Reyna <<a href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com" class="">delawen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class=""></div>At least, I would consider this as a factor: security. <br class=""><br class="">I am used to not being able to travel freely everywhere, but maybe... Maybe I shouldn't have to skip conferences because of this. What is more important, getting the conference venue on sensitive places or having everybody allowed to travel freely?<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At least for Tanzania I plan to go, but I already assumed I am not going to do any tourism or any walk around besides the hotel, airport and conference venue. It's just going to be the conference, which is not as bad as it may sound :) At least I "only" have to hide my body (as suggestions from <a href="https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania/local-laws-and-customs" class="">https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania/local-laws-and-customs</a> ), which is going to be more difficult than you think. I am not used to hiding arms and legs when there are hot temperatures :)<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyway, this kind of advices are better if they are made by the conference organization than if they are made by some embassy. It is not the same travelling to a big city than travelling to a small town.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Bart van den Eijnden <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank" class="">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">Shouldn't this be part of our selection criteria for the next
conferences?<br class="">
</p><p class="">Best regards,</p><p class="">Bart<br class="">
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<div class="m_2247691221658949231moz-cite-prefix">On 19-02-18 22:48, María Arias de Reyna
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<div dir="auto" class="">Thanks Mark, any further information will be very
helpful :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">El 19 feb. 2018 10:45 p. m., "Mark
Iliffe" <<a href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">markiliffe@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Maria,
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<div class="">Yes, it is partly. Our LOC is formalising a
partnership with HOT currently, as per an earlier email
to the list, and this is our first topic of discussion.
With regard to the legislation, it is unfortunately a
legacy from the colonial times, as someone who had lived
there for 6 years in a vibrant international community,
I am yet to see an instance where these laws have been
applied - however, I stress, this is my personal view.</div>
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<div class="">Our plan is to hold further consultations with the
OSGEO LGBT+ community and I have personally reached out
to those in a position of responsibility within this
intersection for further advice. I assisted HOT with
drafting their initial response [1] to this concern
also. </div>
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<div class="">As the FOSS4G 2018 co-chair, I would welcome that
people share their concerns publicly, or if they wish,
privately with myself. But on behalf of the LOC, I
stress that our stated vision in both our proposal and
now, through our website, is to the most inclusive
FOSS4G that we can be. We, as a LOC, are firmly
committed to equality, regardless of sexual orientation,
gender, race, and creed. We want to provide the safest
possible space at this year's FOSS4G, setting this out
in both our vision and Code of Conduct [2].</div>
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<div class="">We will be discussing this in our weekly LOC meeting
tomorrow and I will, in due course, feedback to this
list.</div>
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<div class="">Best,</div>
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<div class="">Mark Iliffe</div>
<div class="">2018 FOSS4G Co-Chair</div>
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<div class="">[1] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2018-February/014201.html" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.openstreetma<wbr class="">p.org/pipermail/hot/2018-<wbr class="">February/014201.html</a> </div>
<div class="">[2] <a href="http://2018.foss4g.org/code-of-conduct.html" target="_blank" class="">http://2018.foss4g.org/cod<wbr class="">e-of-conduct.html</a> </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 February 2018 at 16:00,
María Arias de Reyna <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">delawen@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Hi,
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">I'm following this conversation on
HOT:</div>
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<div dir="auto" class=""><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2018-February/014199.html" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.or<wbr class="">g/pipermail/hot/2018-February/<wbr class="">014199.html</a><br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">Is this real? Do this year's
organisation have a plan? Is it legacy deprecated
laws or are they being applied? Do we have a
problem with LGBT+ next FOSS4G? Should we warn the
community? Can we do something about it?</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Regards,</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Maria.</div>
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