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<p>Quite a few comments from me, and while most should be able to be
addressed quite easily, there are some bigger questions which it
would be good to take to the greater CoC communities.</p>
<p>1. I think we could do a better job at describing the range of
actions that could be taken, without being threatening. (This
takes a lot of effort to word correctly. This code of conduct
covers everything from minor infringement to totally criminal
behavior and it is difficult to get the balance right. At the
moment, I don't think we are fully covering the minor infringement
case (which is likely to get more cases).<br>
</p>
<p>2. I think we could be more empowering of the reporter. We
probably shouldn't refer to them as a "victim". We probably should
say, "In line with our Code of Conduct, we plan to take the
following next step. Is that ok with you?" This is empowering of
the reporter.</p>
<p>I haven't gone into details of how this could be worded. I think
it would be quite time consuming to do so and get buy in from all
involved.</p>
<p>What has been written so far is good and suitable enough for the
next event. My suggestions are pushing toward what I think could
be better for the future.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/4/18 2:45 am, Mark Iliffe wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAFqG6Zex+Ur33=rCd3ei6b8LUa+ce2yDgRNv08gZa=gfRy=fYw@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">Dear All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Following this thread, and comments on the FOSS4G 2018
Github [1] I have created a google doc with an enhanced Code
of Conduct: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k_zWD2dnMg0T-EhA2l828xkLxGyMHpLOuc0WxB5vfkM/edit?usp=sharing"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k_zWD2dnMg0T-EhA2l828xkLxGyMHpLOuc0WxB5vfkM/edit?usp=sharing</a>
I welcome all to review.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mark</div>
<div><br>
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<div>[1] <a
href="https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/65"
moz-do-not-send="true">Suggested changes to Code of Conduct
· Issue #65 · foss4g2018/foss4g2018</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 31 March 2018 at 22:25, Cameron
Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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<p>Mark, conference committee,</p>
<p>As an outsider reading this Code of Conduct, without
knowing the Tanzania anti-LGBT laws, this CoC would seem
strange in the way they are singling out LGBT. I think
it would be useful to state it up front what the legal
situation is, and the limits to the FOSS4G committee's
ability to enforce the CoC or protect delegates from
local laws.<br>
</p>
<p>I think it would be good to have a statement noting
something like:<br>
</p>
<p>1. Participants should be mindful of LGBT local laws,
which state ...<br>
</p>
<p>2. Participants should behave respectfully toward
locals of the country and dress and behave respectfully
when in public. Appropriate dress involves ...</p>
<p>3. While the OSGeo Foundation supports a safe
conference environment and will apply whatever means at
its disposal to support this (including removing people
from the conference if needed), participants should be
aware of the limit's of the FOSS4G committee's legal
mandate to protect delegates. <br>
</p>
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<div class="m_-4786881409578026915moz-cite-prefix">On
1/4/18 1:16 am, Mark Iliffe wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Dear All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Following these discussions, I would warmly
welcome you all to contribute to the discussion on
the CoC for this year’s FOSS4G: <a
href="https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/65"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/<wbr>foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/<wbr>65</a> </div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mark</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:44, Cameron Shorter
<<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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<p>Mark and others on this list,</p>
<p>I'm seeing significant agreement here
in promoting diversity within OSGeo. I
encourage anyone who feels strongly
about this should consider starting to
craft revised text for OSGeo policy
documents. Until that happens, we are
all talk, no action, no impact.<br>
</p>
<p>The process: Write draft changes to our
policy documents, invite review, get
rough consensus on wording, get the
conference committee to vote to accept
the proposed changes, update the
official documents.</p>
<p>Documents that I think need reworking
are:</p>
<p><a
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href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/<wbr>foss4g/rfp/</a><br>
</p>
<p><a
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href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<wbr>FOSS4G_Handbook</a></p>
<p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
</p>
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<div
class="m_-4786881409578026915moz-cite-prefix">On
8/3/18 1:16 am, Mark Iliffe wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Dear María,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the update on this, we
as FOSS4G DLOC will follow and further
participate with interest.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With regard to holding this
conversation slowly, may I kindly
counsel that we proceed as quickly and
as openly as possible - to be clear, I
do not view this as a point of debate
for Dar es Salaam, but for our
community as a whole - the ripples of
this conversation go far beyond FOSS4G
this year. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The views and their number
expressed have reinforced my
(personal) view that to our credit, we
have a great appetite for discussion
on this within our community regarding
diversity and inclusion - to proceed
slowly in limited forums may provide
the signal that we are not taking this
seriously - we know this is <u
style="font-weight:bold">not</u> the
case!! - but there is a difference
between fact and perception
unfortunately. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am not asking for people to come
out of the closet to engage in this
discussion; Personally, I am not
LGBT+, however, I have a direct
interest in making our community to be
as inclusive and representative of our
world as much as possible, this
includes those in our community in
relative and/or absolute poverty (ie.
those that utilise QGIS to digitise
their communities), or from
under-represented communities - I
believe that we can participate in
this discussion not based on our race,
creed, gender, sexual orientation but
on the basis as we as a community
stand weaker if one of us is
disadvantaged - can we not engage
independently as a member of humanity
working towards inclusivity and
acceptance, instead of categorising
ourselves? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This maybe a tone deaf view - and
if so, please accept my humble
apologies - but we clearly have a
challenge here and while we cannot
change the laws of any nation that we
are working on, we can send the
message to the OSGeo community that we
are listening and through the
CoC/diversity statement/working groups
on LGBT+ etc. that <b><u>YOU ARE
WELCOME IN THIS COMMUNITY!</u></b></div>
<div><b><u><br>
</u></b></div>
<div>This reinforces my personal view
that we need to ensure that all are
kept aware of these discussions -
accordingly, I kindly request that we
keep this in the OSGeo discuss board
and make the F2F discussions in Bonn
accessible for all and that the board
takes appropriate action to ensure
that this message is heard loud and
clear throughout.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mark</div>
<div>
<div><br>
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<div>On 7 Mar 2018, at 02:37,
María Arias de Reyna <<a
href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">delawen@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Dear Mark,<br>
<br>
Thank you very much for your
email.<br>
<br>
I agree we should continue the
discussion in the open. Now we
have a<br>
clear view of the current
situation from the board (and
people<br>
following that list). A reason
why I personally haven't moved
this<br>
quicker more open is because I
don't want OSGeo to be
responsible of<br>
people coming out of the
closet on the community and
then travelling<br>
to Tanzania and having
problems because of that. The
risk is very low,<br>
as you have confirmed, but
this is a very sensitive issue
in many<br>
countries. Everyone should be
aware of this before starting
to point<br>
personal experiences,
especially people coming from
privileged<br>
countries where being LGBT+ is
not only legal, but socially
accepted.<br>
<br>
We have an OSGeo meeting in
Bonn very soon and I think
that is a<br>
proper place to discuss this,
as it will be face to face and
some<br>
people will be able to discuss
this without having to write
their<br>
names anywhere. I agree there
should be an LGBT+ group
inside OSGeo,<br>
and maybe we should provide
the tools to allow members
from sensitive<br>
countries/personal situations
to participate anonymously.
(How? I<br>
don't know yet.) And we should
promote also some kind of
diversity<br>
advice group, where all kind
of discriminations can be
addressed.<br>
Maybe merge this idea with the
CoC team? Maybe a separated
dedicated<br>
team? I don't know.<br>
<br>
Thanks for this and if you
need some immediate action
from the board,<br>
just let us know.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
María.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:11
AM, Mark Iliffe <<a
href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">markiliffe@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Dear
OSGeo Board,<br>
<br>
On the 20th of February I
wrote in response to a
concern raised on LGBT+<br>
concerns in Dar es Salaam.
To this, set out the
following four action<br>
points:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">To
help move forward on this,
we will 1. Ensure that we
provide guidance<br>
to those in our community
on this issue; 2. Seek
dialog within our
community<br>
on this issue, I am
personally contactable on
this and fully welcome any
and<br>
all people who wish to
discuss this on a
face-to-face (over VC) or
any other<br>
medium that the community
would feel better with; 3.
Recommend that the<br>
board puts in place
guidance for future OSGEO
conferences other this
issues;<br>
4. Support the formation
of an LGBT+ grouping
within OSGEO to better
support<br>
appropriate guidance on
this issue.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
To update on this:<br>
<br>
1. We are collaborating with
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap
Team on this issue,<br>
to ensure that the response
to our mutual communities
are in lock-step on<br>
this issue. Guidance will be
published for consultation
for the conference<br>
shortly;<br>
2. I have reached out to
members of the LGBT+
community that I know<br>
personally on a bilateral
basis. I would welcome
further dialogue with the<br>
OSGeo LGBT+ community on a
bilateral, private basis for
people to voice<br>
their concerns in
confidence;<br>
<br>
Points 3 and 4 are of
specific interest, in the
view of the LOC of FOSS4G<br>
2018, as we can set policy
direction for our
conference, but have no
mandate<br>
nor mechanism to set policy
across OSGeo. To this end, I
would formally<br>
request, in my role of Chair
of FOSS4G for the OSGeo
Board to provide<br>
direction to future FOSS4G
conferences and to further
support and service<br>
this community within our
wider community.<br>
<br>
Clearly, there is a desire
for LGBT+ to be considered
further in our<br>
community - as noted in the
transcript of the previous
board meeting [1],<br>
but I think this needs to be
communicated to our wider
community - I see the<br>
discussions on the OSGeo
board mailing list, though
this may not have the<br>
widest circulation. I am
also available to have a
video conference with the<br>
board, at their earliest
possible convenience if such
an invitation was<br>
extended.<br>
<br>
Finally, I really want to
stress this for our
conference in Dar es Salaam<br>
this year to our community:
We want to have the most
inclusive conference<br>
that we can possibly have.
In the same way that
previous FOSS4G events in<br>
Boston and North Carolina
have demonstrated, our
conferences have dealt with<br>
challenges within the wider
legislative framework of
their host country, we<br>
as a community are welcoming
to any and all with open
arms. We will publish<br>
guidance for those
travelling, and if you still
wish to participate but<br>
cannot come to Dar es
Salaam, get in touch with us
- we will help you get<br>
involved! Our FOSS4G will
only be successful due to
ALL the people in our<br>
OSGeo community; we are a
big and dynamic family - we
will reflect and live<br>
that this year in Dar es
Salaam, and I hope in the
many years to come.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
<br>
[1] <a
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Date: 21 February 2018 at
08:26<br>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf]
LGBT in Tanzania<br>
To: <a
href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hi to all<br>
<br>
I was following the LGBT in
Tanzania discussion, and I
am happy to see the<br>
question added to the next
RfP.<br>
<br>
The discussion on LGBT
rights and safety requires a
bit of common sense, I<br>
am LGBT it is one part of my
live as being OsGEO member
is another (one of<br>
many) part(s), normally
these two don't intercept
much, personally I think<br>
this is why the LGBT
community is present in
OsGEO but very invisible.<br>
What?? No LGBT birds of the
feather in FOSS4G ???<br>
<br>
Having a code of conduct
that is non discriminatory,
we must take into<br>
consideration the rights of
minorities and safety of ALL
the participants of<br>
and a OsGEO conference, the
LOC have to do their best
for the safety. LOC<br>
should also informed
participants on what are
the real problems that<br>
participants may have to
face, then is up to the
participants to decide if<br>
they fell comfortable to to
attend the conference.<br>
<br>
Again, nice to see this
topic discussed and remember
these comments are my 2<br>
cents<br>
<br>
Enjoy your day<br>
Jorge<br>
<br>
<br>
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On 21-02-18 10:30, Till
Adams wrote:<br>
<br>
Darrell, @ohers,<br>
<br>
thanks for the sum up, I
agree in including such a
question in the next<br>
RfP. In order to preserve
your proposal, I've added
your questionTill here:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rfp"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<wbr>Rfp</a><br>
<br>
I will add this to the next
RfP-text.<br>
<br>
<br>
Till<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 20.02.2018 um 18:32
schrieb Darrell Fuhriman:<br>
<br>
"FOSS4G attracts a global,
diverse community. Are there
any laws, or<br>
social norms, in your
proposed location that would
make members of our<br>
community feel unsafe or
unwelcome? That could
include, but is not<br>
limited to, anti-LGBTQ+
policies, policies that
would prevent the free<br>
exercise of religion,
restrictions on certain
activities based on<br>
gender or other factor,
etc?”<br>
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