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<p>Given no-one else appears to be against the tracking, I guess
I'll put my oar in.</p>
<p> Isn't this counter to the spirit of Open Source and the freedoms
that FOSS is meant to encompass? Certainly I know that Richard
Stallman takes great exception to being tracked, and generally
speaking his track record on why we shouldn't give up our freedoms
readily is pretty much spot-on. The "Free" in FOSS is liberty, not
price.<br>
</p>
<p>Is it right to sacrifice the end users privacy in this manner? It
may meet the letter of the GDPR, but it seems counter to the
spirit. So I'd say tracking should definitely be disabled.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-01-25 21:33, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
</div>
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cite="mid:CACqBkM-UDQp6izwn-85m0tP57=9GwTjjSvYw3oVQycuJGJGd8w@mail.gmail.com">
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<div>The tracking is also configurable by the sender. If
senders want metrics of how many people open emails or click
links they can enable it. (Or maybe it defaults on and you
have to disable it.) <a
href="https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards, Eli</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at
12:01 PM Ian Turton <<a
href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">ijturton@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The tracking is easily defeated by <a
href="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pixelblock/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pixelblock/</a>
amoung other extensions.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div>Ian</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail_attr">On Fri,
25 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Steven Feldman <<a
href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>AFAIK MailChimp tracks whether a recipient opens
a mail and whether they click on certain call to
action links in the mail. I can’t see anything very
nefarious in that tracking but perhaps others would
have a problem, in which case they have the option
to unsubscribe and not be tracked<br>
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<span
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style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
<div>______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Unusual maps in strange places - <a
href="http://mappery.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mappery.org</a><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@MapsintheWild</a></div>
</span>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>On 25 Jan 2019, at 19:46, Jeffrey Johnson
<<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ortelius@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Im +1 too ... and managing the
FOSS4G-NA list now ... which could not be
handed over from Eclipse for policy reasons.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I do however recall some 'complaints'
on the discuss list about Mailchimp
'tracking' with links. Im sure if this
were brought up there, someone would have
something to say against it. Thats about
par for the course though I guess?</div>
</div>
<br>
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class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail_attr">On
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 11:28 AM Cameron
Shorter <<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>+1 Great idea for reasons already
mentioned.<br>
</p>
<div
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887moz-cite-prefix">On
25/1/19 8:56 pm, Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>
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<div>+1 to anything, what helps</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>J<br>
</div>
</div>
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class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail_attr">čt
24. 1. 2019 v 22:22 odesílatel
Amanda Taub <<a
href="mailto:ataub.gis@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ataub.gis@gmail.com</a>>
napsal:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I assist in running
the Mailchimp account for
Washington URISA. It is very
possible to have separate email
lists for different regions and
for OSGeo overall. It is easy
enough to setup these lists and
create an opt-in page.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Amanda<br clear="all">
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<div dir="ltr"><font
size="2"><span>Amanda
H.S. Taub,
GISP <br>
Central
Washington GIS
User Group
(CWGIS)
Organizer </span><br>
<span>Washington
URISA
(WAURISA)
Marketing
Volunteer</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>Marketing
Lead for </span><font
size="2"><span>2019
Washington GIS
Conference </span></font><font
size="2"><span><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><span>URISA
Marketing
Committee
Volunteer</span></div>
<div><font
size="2"><font
face="times
new roman, new
york, times,
serif">URISA </font><span>Social
Media Work
Group Chair</span></font></div>
<div><span>FOSS4G
2020 Calgary
Local
Organizing
Committee
Member</span><font
size="2"><span><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><a
href="http://www.urisa.org/index.php"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
height="86"
width="200"></a><span> </span><a
href="http://www.urisa.org/about-us/urisa-s-giscorps/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><img
moz-do-not-send="true" height="110" width="200"><br>
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class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail_attr">On
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:53 AM
Msilikale Msilanga <<a
href="mailto:msilikalemsilanga@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">msilikalemsilanga@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>+1
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It is a good idea
especially that African
community who did not have
any information regarding
OSGeo before are now
following up updates on
FOSS4G conferences. It is
only because of that now
many African community
want to participate into
the FOSS4G conferences. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I also agree with <a
href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Michael
Terner</a> </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Msilikale<br>
<div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>On 24 Jan 2019,
at 2:49 PM, Guido
Stein <<a
href="mailto:guido@guidostein.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">guido@guidostein.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">+1 I
like the ideas
shared in this
thread.<br>
</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail_attr">On
Thu, Jan 24,
2019 at 12:25 PM
Steven Feldman
<<a
href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>We don’t
need separate
lists, it is
much easier to
manage all of
our FOSS4G
contacts in
one list. We
can tag
records as we
load them with
a region
and/or we can
add them to
groups by
allowing them
to select
their
preferences
and tick what
regions they
want to
receive info
about.
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div> <span
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail-m_7898325452752765720Apple-style-span"
style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
<div>______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Unusual
maps in
strange places
- <a
href="http://mappery.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mappery.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@MapsintheWild</a></div>
</span> </div>
<div><br>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div>On 24 Jan
2019, at
15:58, Eli
Adam <<a
href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I agree
this is a good
idea. I also
echo Michael's
comments and
think that it
is probably
best to have
separate lists
for separate
events (even
if managed
through the
same MailChimp
account).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"tech"
things that
have regular
bills are
usually
"owned" by SAC
or at least
SAC owns the
paying the
bill part. We
could ask
SAC. Managing
the account
seems like a
conference
committee
duty, at least
for the global
FOSS4G.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best
regards, Eli</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail-m_7898325452752765720gmail_attr">On
Thu, Jan 24,
2019 at 7:14
AM michael
terner <<a
href="mailto:ternergeo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ternergeo@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">+1<br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I
think this is
a great idea.
Of course,
it'd also be
great if some
"best
practices" and
how-to
materials
accompanied
this
transition
(e.g., how to
create a new
campaign, how
to open access
to individual
conferences
[e.g., there
might be two
conferences
using the list
concurrently],
etc.). The
only downside
I see is that
the list could
potentially
erode due to
opt outs
emanating from
regional
events hitting
the whole
list. For
instance, if
I'm in the USA
and I start
getting lots
of emails for
European
events, I may
choose to opt
out, and then
I'd be off the
global list
too. Or,
perhaps, a
best practice
would be to
require/strongly
suggest
regional
filtering for
regional
events, i.e.,
in my European
event example,
they'd filter
to only mail
to European
countries.</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Just
some thoughts
that this is
not
necessarily as
simple as it
seems, and we
should think
about the best
practices and
a smooth
implementation.
Who/what
committee from
OSGeo might be
considered to
"own" this
resource?</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My
$.02...</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">MT</div>
</div>
<br>
<div
class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">On
Thu, Jan 24,
2019 at 7:43
AM Steven
Feldman <<a
href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>I think
this is a
great idea
both from
ensuring
continuity and
sustainability
for future
FOSS4G’s and
also from a
GDPR
standpoint
(the group of
GDPR
volunteers
have not
forgotten that
we need to get
OSGeo to be
full GDPR
compliant!!)<br>
<div> <span
class="gmail-m_-2223679046622321249gmail-m_3367771855619245221gmail-m_2418146119616670887gmail-m_3471416171478281937gmail-m_-8325952260575204012gmail-m_7898325452752765720gmail-m_-4142487817813823703gmail-m_-2295678100163834214Apple-style-span"
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<div>______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Unusual
maps in
strange places
- <a
href="http://mappery.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mappery.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://twitter.com/mapsinthewild"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@MapsintheWild</a></div>
</span> </div>
<div><br>
<blockquote
type="cite">
<div>On 24 Jan
2019, at
09:53, Vasile
Craciunescu
<<a
href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>Dear
colleagues,<br>
<br>
I hope my
email finds
you well. I
will like to
ask your
opinion on a
item that can
be associated
with the
Conference
Committee. At
least since
Boston, the
various LOC of
FOSS4G global
are using
MaiChimp [1]
for
communication
with potential
participants,
register
participants
and the
sponsors. The
account is
passed from
one LOC to
another
without any
formal
agreement.
There are more
than 5000
contacts
subscribed to
this channel,
all past
participants
at FOSS4G
international
or FOSS4G-NA.
All agreed to
be subscribed
and receive
communication
from
OSGeo/LOCs
regarding
FOSS4G topics.
Compliance
with GDPR [2]
is also
assured.<br>
<br>
My question to
you if is not
better to have
OSGeo take
over this
account and
provide access
to FOSS4G
LOC's. Why I'm
saying this:<br>
<br>
1. By having
no formal way
of handling
this there is
a chance to
loose the
account
(lists,
templates,
campaigns
reports, etc)
in case of bad
communication
among the
LOC's.<br>
<br>
2. The account
is not a big
financial
burden for the
LOC (approx
77$/month) but
at transition
time some
glitches can
occur. E.g.
last year,
Mark paid for
1-2 months
from his
pocket because
BLOC was slow
to react and
replace his
card in the
account
settings. This
can be avoid
if OSGeo take
care of the
account.<br>
<br>
3. The account
can be also
used by the
important
regional
FOSS4G events
like FOSS4G-NA
and
FOSS4G-Europe.
There are
mechanism to
have separate
campaigns and
target the
subscribes
geographically.<br>
<br>
Of course, no
LOC can be
forced to use
MailChimp for
communication
purposes. Is
just an idea,
in the context
os OSGeo
budget
discussion, to
make things
easy for the
future LOCs.
What do you
think?<br>
<br>
-Vasile<br>
<br>
[1] <a
href="https://mailchimp.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mailchimp.com</a><br>
[2] <a
href="https://eugdpr.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://eugdpr.org</a><br>
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