[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO logo contest - when?

Gary Lang gary.lang at autodesk.com
Thu Mar 9 18:26:39 PST 2006


Daniel,

" I well understand the issue of sending email to the wrong folks. It  
has happened to me. This is not a problem just with lists, but of  
email. "

As we discussed, this argument isn't flying. We're seeing people with
years of experience replying to the list by accident over and over.  

I want to file this as a bug on CN.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Brookshier [mailto:dbrookshier at collab.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:22 AM
To: discuss at mail.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO logo contest - when?

I should point out that this is the default and what I've been told, the
only option supported for the CollabNet platform. I have put in the
request for the option, but it is likely to be denied because it would
require that the core platform be changed to accommodate it. It also
goes against the philosophy of collaboration that CollabNet aspires to.
In this case, a list is seen as a conversation and we do not want to
make it easy to have a side conversation via a replyto sender
configuration.

I well understand the issue of sending email to the wrong folks. It has
happened to me. This is not a problem just with lists, but of email.
Even with replyto set to the sender and cc'd to the list, you can still
send a private email to everyone by hitting reply-all.  
Choice over two buttons verses one means nothing at 2 in the morning, at
least for me.

When we get artificial intelligence in email clients this will be a
non-issue.

Daniel Brookshier
Community Manager
214-207-6614

On Mar 9, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Chris Holmes wrote:

> Ah, the great reply to debate: http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/
> mailing-lists.html#reply-to
>
> My preference is for not forcing replies to list.  There's no real 
> good way to debate this, as it's a classic holy war (http://
> producingoss.com/html-chunk/common-pitfalls.html#holy-wars)
>
> This one is a bit more tricky since I think we had it one way when it 
> was hosted by DM, and another since we've moved to collabnet...
>
> Perhaps a good solution would be to poll what the lists of projects  
> that are joining the foundation use for their default reply to?   
> Whatever is in the majority becomes the default for collabnet lists.  
> But any individual project or committee is welcome to motivate to 
> change the behavior, or to set up new lists how they like.
>
> best regards,
>
> Chris
>
> Daniel Morissette wrote:
>> Lester Caine wrote:
>>>
>>> Post to any list should reply to the list, if you WANT to make a 
>>> private comment it should be a matter of choice ;)
>>>
>> My opinion is the contrary, that forcing the Reply-To: in the headers

>> actually takes away my choice of replying off-list or via the list.
>> When walking through hundreds of daily emails from various sources, 
>> you tend to reply quickly and a mistake can happen and a private 
>> reply ends up on a list because of the Reply-To: in the headers. That

>> happened to me Monday morning when I was not awake enough and sent a 
>> private reply to this list by accident. I have over 10 years 
>> experience dealing with lists, I am not a newbie, but forcing the 
>> replies to the list this way just makes it too easy to make a 
>> mistake.
>>>> This probably applies to all osgeo lists
>>>>
>>>> Please change the list behaviour,
>>>> thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Only if that is what everybody wants?
>> My vote goes to fixing the lists (i.e. not adding the "Reply-To:"  
>> in the headers).
>>> I MUCH prefer that all my lists reply to the list, but if you change

>>> it, then I apologize in advance for sending people messages intended

>>> for the list. 90% of the lists I use 'get it right' so I tend to 
>>> forget I have to change it for the FEW that do not :)
>>>
>> 90%? That's a lot of misconfigured lists.  ;)  ;) Daniel
>
> --
> Chris Holmes
> The Open Planning Project
> thoughts at: http://cholmes.wordpress.com <cholmes.vcf>
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