[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election Results

Fri Aug 10 01:48:10 PDT 2007

I too agree with Gary & Co.; I don't personally see the need to release
the results, and in
any case the "rules" for this past election were set and should not be
changed retroactively.

If we are interested in looking at geographic distributions -- and,
being geo geeks, who wouldn't be? -- then I'd suggest doing an analysis
of the set of charter members.  We have a statistically interesting
number of them, across three(?) elections, so one should be able to get
some insight into the question of geodiversity over time.

-mpg

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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of RAVI KUMAR
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:54 PM
> To: discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election Results
> 
> Hi All,
> I agree with Kishor. Seeing the geographical
> distribution of votes will be relevant.
> Ravi Kumar
> --- P Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Gary,
> > 
> > I was not the person who originally requested this,
> > but I did show
> > interest in this, so I am presenting my reason here,
> > for what they are
> > worth.
> > 
> > Actually, I am not even so much interested in seeing
> > who got how many
> > votes as I am in seeing the geographical
> > distribution of whence the
> > votes came from and where they went... if that could
> > be shown on the
> > map... or, if I can imagine it on a map.
> > 
> > For now, it is heavily weighted in North America and
> > Europe, and
> > rightly so... most of this technology was invented
> > in these regions,
> > most of the developers are from these regions, most
> > of the
> > implementations are in these regions, most of the
> > momentum in these
> > regions. In the long run, I would like to see OSGeo
> > spread its wings
> > on all corners of the globe. I am not trying to
> > hasten this process
> > artificially, but I am interested in seeing the
> > process itself, and
> > see it happen sooner rather than later... imagine...
> > if I could see a
> > time-lapse movie of open geospatial spreading around
> > the world!
> > 
> > For now, I am more interested in seeing where we
> > need to focus more,
> > encourage more activity, perhaps even do some
> > special hand-holding, if
> > required.
> > 
> > That is all of my reasoning. It is not crucial or
> > urgent, and there is
> > no other agenda -- if collectively it is decided
> > that not showing the
> > tally is better, I am cool with that as well...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/9/07, Gary Sherman <sherman at mrcc.com> wrote:
> > > What purpose is served by displaying the results
> > in this way? I see
> > > absolutely no benefit, other than to create an
> > ad-hoc popularity
> > > contest to see who beat out whom.
> > >
> > > What lessons can be learned from having the tally
> > known? How can it
> > > benefit
> > > OSGeo in future elections? Will it deter people
> > from running in the
> > > future?
> > >
> > > The votes were not posted publicly, we know who
> > won, leave it at that.
> > >
> > > If the final tally by person is made public, will
> > we next ask to see
> > > how each charter member voted?
> > >
> > > This is beyond openness.
> > >
> > > -gary
> > >
> > > (Yes I was a candidate, yes I was not elected, no
> > this has nothing to
> > > do with my position on this issue)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 9, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Frank Warmerdam
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > P Kishor wrote:
> > > >> In the spirit of openness, it would be
> > worthwhile seeing where the
> > > >> charter members thought it best to cast their
> > votes. While
> > > >> embarrassment is a possible consequence, I
> > believe if I were running
> > > >> for a Board member, and if I lost, I would
> > still like to see the
> > > >> votes... I am not interested in seeing who
> > voted for who... I am more
> > > >> interested in seeing the voting pattern as a
> > reflection of the
> > > >> pattern
> > > >> of interest, awareness, and even a need for
> > doing more.
> > > >
> > > > Puneet (and Tamas, Bart, ...)
> > > >
> > > > I don't have a strong opinion on this.  If
> > someone would like to take
> > > > this issue formally to the board I would
> > encourage you to write up a
> > > > position in the wiki and add it as a topic for
> > the next board meeting
> > > > agenda at:
> > > >
> > > >  
> >
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Twenty_Eighth_Board_Meeting
> > > >
> > > > If so, I'd ask that you be available to speak on
> > behalf of the issue
> > > > for the next board meeting.  Alternatively, the
> > topic could be
> > > > discussed
> > > > at the AGM at FOSS4G (planned for late on the
> > Monday I believe).  I
> > > > can't seem to find a wiki page about the AGM,
> > though I think one
> > > > exists.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, discussing here is fine too, but
> > ultimately for action it
> > > > is helpful for someone to "carry the ball".  I'm
> > not going to be that
> > > > person given a lack of enthusiasm about the
> > idea.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > --
> > > > ---------------------------------------
> > > > +--------------------------------------
> > > > I set the clouds in motion - turn up   | Frank
> > Warmerdam,
> > > > warmerdam at pobox.com
> > > > light and sound - activate the windows |
> > http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
> > > > and watch the world go round - Rush    |
> > President OSGeo, http://
> > > > osgeo.org
> > > >
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> > > Gary Sherman
> > > Chair, QGIS Project Steering Committee
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> > -- 
> > Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/
> > Nelson Inst. for Env. Studies, UW-Madison
> > http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/
> > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> > http://www.osgeo.org/education/
> > S&T Policy Fellow, National Academy of Sciences
> > http://www.nas.edu/
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