[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education

hendra aquan hendra.aquan at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 07:36:54 PDT 2007 

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>    1. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Frans Thamura)
>    2. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Jacolin Yves)
>    3. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained        a lot of
>       attention (Luca Casagrande)
>    4. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained        a lot of
>       attention (Venkatesh Raghavan)
>    5. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education
>       (Venkatesh Raghavan)
>    6. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained        a lot of
>       attention (Jachym Cepicky)
>    7. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education
>       (Venkatesh Raghavan)
>    8. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained        a lot of
>       attention (Venkatesh Raghavan)
>    9. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained        a lot of
>       attention (Luca Casagrande)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:33:19 +0700
> From: "Frans Thamura" <frans at intercitra.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
>         education
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> On 10/26/07, Gavin Fleming <GavinF at mintek.co.za> wrote:
> > While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like
> > to put a niche request / challenge to the community.
> >
>
> Gavin,
>
> our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for the
> detail
>
> 1. we just need Ubuntu in client
> 2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and
> put in the centralized server
> 3. start training
>
> may be can help
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:54:17 +0200
> From: Jacolin Yves <yjacolin at free.fr>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
>         education
> To: discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> Cc: Gavin Fleming <GavinF at mintek.co.za>, edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> Message-ID: <200710260954.17571.yjacolin at free.fr>
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> Gaving,
>
> The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone
> documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone
> (french)
> is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we will use it.
>
> Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi LiveCD,
> some
> LiveUsb, etc.
>
> It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the ability
> to
> change data, documentation and langage, i.e. I18n of the liveCD, easily.
>
> Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to produce
> data
> and documentation for this liveCD ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Y.
> Le Friday 26 October 2007 08:29:52 Gavin Fleming, vous avez écrit:
> > While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like
> > to put a niche request / challenge to the community.
> >
> > High schools in South Africa and elsewhere need a FOSS alternative to
> > use and teach GIS, which is a compulsory part of the syllabus from this
> > year. FOSS GIS at present is too inaccessible. My challenge is to have a
> > packaged CD for Ubuntu to launch at FOSS4G2008 in Cape Town. This CD (or
> > DVD) would have:
> >
> > -one-click installation for Linux, Windows or Mac.
> > -Integrated software stack so teachers and learners have to launch a
> > minimal number of applications
> > -Simplified and customised GUIs to lower the entry threshold.
> >       -for teachers to teach curriculum requirements of GIS
> >       -for teachers to use GIS to teach geography and other subjects
> >       -for learners to use for hands-on work
> > -Free, integrated global and local data package
> > -excellent documentation
> > -framework for local contributors to structure and contribute exercises,
> > lessons, etc.
> > -central website for resources
> > -possible advanced options for network deployment, more sophisticated
> > users, 'computer studies' learners (i.e. developers), school web map
> > services, etc.
> >
> > Any takers?
> >
> >
> > Gavin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan
> > Sent: 26 October 2007 05:19 AM
> > To: OSGeo Discussions
> > Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
> > gaineda lot of attention
> >
> > Hi Hendra,
> >
> > We are starting to look into packaging
> > OSGeo software stack for Ubuntu using
> > the AptonCD packaging tool (http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/).
> >
> > We are in the process of learning to package
> > software for Unbuntu.
> >
> > If any others are interested in working on this,
> > we would be glad to join.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Venka
> >
> > ..
> >
> > >> Oops, looks like I've forgotten the urls =]
> > >>
> > >> Spatially Adjusted (James Fee):
> >
> > http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2007/10/22/create-gis-workstation-using
> > -ubuntu-and-open-source-gis-software
> >
> > >> Matt Perry: http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10
> > >>
> > >> And: BR-Linux =]
> >
> > http://br-linux.org/linux/configurando-um-ambiente-de-sistema-de-informa
> > cao-geografica-com-o-ubuntu
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:56:41 +0200
> From: Luca Casagrande <luca.casagrande at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
>         gained  a lot of attention
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <sarawut.ait at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <1193385402.6201.12.camel at linux-mac>
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> Hello everybody.
>
> What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
>
> Bye
>
> Luca
>
> Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 13.45 +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan ha
> scritto:
> > Hi Mateusz,
> >
> > Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> > ..
> > >
> > > Perhaps, it's well-known already, but there are two maintainers groups
> > > working on GIS packages for Debian and Ubuntu:
> > >
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS
> > >
> > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:03:31 +0900
> From: Venkatesh Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
>         gained  a lot of attention
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <sarawut.ait at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <47219F53.7070103 at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
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> Hi Luca,
>
> Luca Casagrande wrote:
> > Hello everybody.
> >
> > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
>
> Great idea. I am all for it.
>
> Venka
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:10:03 +0900
> From: Venkatesh Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
>         education
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Message-ID: <4721A0DB.1000007 at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Frans,
>
> Frans Thamura wrote:
> ...
> > Gavin,
> >
> > our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for
> > the detail
> >
> > 1. we just need Ubuntu in client 2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we
> > here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and put in the centralized server 3.
> > start training
>
> That would still require to network access.
> In the trainings that we give the particpants
> a set of CD will have the OS and OSGeo stack
> in them. The idea being that once the trainee
> returns home, he can make copies of CD and
> make use of the tools even if he/she does not
> have access to internet or the bandwidth's are
> narrow. Right now we do the packaging on Mandriva
> Linux, but are thinking of moving to Unbuntu.
>
> We prefer to use CD instead of DVD because many
> of the particpants do not have access to DVD reader in
> their home countries.
>
> Venka
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:09:09 +0200
> From: Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
>         gained  a lot of attention
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <sarawut.ait at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <1193389749.7094.16.camel at kocour>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> hi,
>
> the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -
> the people always do.
>
> imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,
> you must not ignore other distributions.
>
> why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many
> thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian
> maintainer?  I can not of course speak for him.
>
> well, just few thoughts of mine
>
> Jachym
>
>
> Venkatesh Raghavan píše v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900:
> > Hi Luca,
> >
> > Luca Casagrande wrote:
> > > Hello everybody.
> > >
> > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
> >
> > Great idea. I am all for it.
> >
> > Venka
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:13:52 +0900
> From: Venkatesh Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
>         education
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Cc: 'Fenoy Gerald' <gerald at geolabs.fr>, edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org
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> Jacolin Yves wrote:
> ...
> > The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone
> > documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone
> > (french) is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we
> > will use it.
>
> I think it is Gerald Fenoy who is working on Geolive
> http://www.djayux.net/geolive/wiki/Downloads
>
> > Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi
> > LiveCD, some LiveUsb, etc.
>
> Guess there must be some limitation on how much of
> the OSGeo stack we could pack in one LiveCD. I also
> read about ways of installing from LiveCD to HDD.
> I haven't used LiveCD much for training yet.
>
> > It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the
> > ability to change data, documentation and langage, i.e. I18n of the
> > liveCD, easily.
>
> Heard that the Japanese version of Ominiverdi LiveCD
> is expected to be out soon.
>
> >
> > Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to
> > produce data and documentation for this liveCD ;)
>
> Sounds good.
>
> Regards
>
> Venka
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:20 +0900
> From: Venkatesh Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
>         gained  a lot of attention
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Message-ID: <4721B2BC.5040101 at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Jachym and all,
>
> Jachym Cepicky wrote:
> ...
> > the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -
> > the people always do.
>
> Very true.
>
> > imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,
> > you must not ignore other distributions.
>
> True, one must not ignore other distributions. our group hopes to
> continue whatever little that we can do on the Mandriva distribution.
>
> > why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many
> > thanks!) work under osgeo head,
>
> Why not? my sincere thanks to Frankie too.
>
> > if he did so till now as official Debian
> > maintainer?  I can not of course speak for him.
>
> Can't speak for him either.
>
> > well, just few thoughts of mine
>
> Regards
>
> Venka
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:27:35 +0200
> From: Luca Casagrande <luca.casagrande at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
>         gained  a lot of attention
> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Message-ID: <1193390855.6201.23.camel at linux-mac>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Jachym,
>
> your thoughts are right..before the repository, we need to define *the*
> osgeo distribution.
> For example, I am working on the Gentoo-GIS repository and this could
> also be taken in consideration.
> My sentence was referred to the Ubuntu topic, and related to the fact
> that right now you are the only one that manage the Ubuntu software
> repository and probably an hand would be useful.
>
> Bye
>
> Luca
>
> Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 11.09 +0200, Jachym Cepicky ha scritto:
> > hi,
> >
> > the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -
> > the people always do.
> >
> > imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,
> > you must not ignore other distributions.
> >
> > why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many
> > thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian
> > maintainer?  I can not of course speak for him.
> >
> > well, just few thoughts of mine
> >
> > Jachym
> >
> >
> > Venkatesh Raghavan píše v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900:
> > > Hi Luca,
> > >
> > > Luca Casagrande wrote:
> > > > Hello everybody.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
> > >
> > > Great idea. I am all for it.
> > >
> > > Venka
>
>
>
>
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