[OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo

Joseph Gentle josephg at gmail.com
Mon Dec 22 15:16:18 PST 2008


If need be, I suspect both amazon and google would be happy to help
with hosting.

http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/

-J

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Landon Blake <lblake at ksninc.com> wrote:
> Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization
> with many different ideas like OSGeo."
>
> Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this
> type of service.
>
> Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or
> not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes."
>
> Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to
> telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible...
>
> Landon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the
> OSGeo
>
> Landon Blake wrote:
>> Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we
> also
>> have two rented
>> servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these
>> servers).
>> We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers."
>>
>> Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this?
>
> Landon,
>
> The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having
> a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project
> services.  The second server is primarily serving as a backup though
> the wiki is hosted there.
>
> We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save
> funds.
>
>> Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished
> via
>> the servers at
>> Telascience.  OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own
>> (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata.
>>
>> Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational,
>> disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be
>> cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially
>> priced servers like the ones at Peer1."
>>
>> Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the
>> bandwith requirements for download, or both?
>
> Both.  Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very
> quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications
> (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience.
>
> I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services
> (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site.
>
>> Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the
>> *hosting* of
>> free geodata is to our mission."
>>
>> It would be great to get this clarified.
>
> Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with
> many different ideas like OSGeo.
>
>> I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a
>> small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure
>> out which organization would be the best suited for the donation.
> Sounds
>> like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out
> this
>> year. :]
>
> I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether
> it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes.
>
> Best regards,
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