[OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models

Rafal Wawer Rafal.Wawer at sadl.kuleuven.be
Fri Dec 18 08:49:43 EST 2009


Actually Miguel, the question was asked by Daniele (-:

I had general knowledge on gvSIG project, coming from the evaluation and documentation of that project within CASCADOSS so I pointed out gvSIG to Daniele, who is making a study on FOSS4G business models, as an example of a development, driven by needs for savings on software costs, ordered by regional government. 

Anyway - thank you very much Miguel, for explanation on business aspect of the gvSIG project. 160% is a very impressive result indeed! (-:

Best regards:
Raf

Dr. Rafal Wawer
K.U.Leuven
R&D Division SADL (Spatial Application Division)
Celestijnenlaan 200e bus 2224
BE-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
Belgium
tel. 0032 16 329731




-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Miguel Montesinos
Sent: 18 December 2009 14:25
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models

Hi Rafal,

I've been mentioned, so I'm involved ;-)

I can give you some generic hints. I suggest (if you haven't) having a look at Wikinomics [1].

Regarding gvSIG, there are not metric data collected so far. I can tell you that companies (not only Iver and Prodevelop) working around gvSIG, started sharing traditional closed  business models (I call them deprived models, because they limit what you can do with the software) with open-source ones, and the results happily "forced" us to leave deprived models towards an open-source one. AFAIK, we both have no new incomes from deprived models, but old legacy systems under maintenance.

The only metric that I can provide you is that at Prodevelop, our revenues have increased 160 % in a 4 year period "mainly" due to the adoption of FOSS4G business models.

Another contribution to this can be made by Luis W. Sevilla, who (if I'm not wrong) recently convinced his managers to move to open source business models.

[1] http://www.wikinomics.com 

Regards,


---------------------------------------------
Miguel Montesinos
CTO
PRODEVELOP, S.L.
mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es
www.prodevelop.es





> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Luis W. Sevilla 
> Enviado el: viernes, 18 de diciembre de 2009 13:36
> Para: OSGeo Discussions
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models
> 
> Hi
> As I have some perspective about gvSIG (I was directly involved last 6 
> years), I may suggest you to contact directly with people in charge of 
> the project both in main founder and two main contractors:
> CIT (Generalitat Valenciana): Martín García or Gabriel Carrión
> IVER: Pepe Vidal or Alvaro Anguix
> Prodevelop: Miguel Montesinos.
> This may be the best path for starting, as far as I know.
> 
> Greetings
> Luis
> 
> P.S. If you need some of the email addresses, please write to me by 
> private email.
> 
> Rafal Wawer wrote:
> > Dear Daniele,
> > No need to be sorry. The hasty was with the " (-; " (-:
> > Anyway - please consider reformulating the sentence. I will suggest 
> > contacting someone from gvSIG (http://www.gvsig.org/web/) and ask 
> > for help - I am sure gvSIG wil be happy to cooperate.
> > I am looking forward to the final document. (-:
> > Cheers:
> > Raf
> >
> > Dr. Rafal Wawer
> > K.U.Leuven
> > R&D Division SADL (Spatial Application Division) Celestijnenlaan 
> > 200e bus 2224
> > BE-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
> > Belgium
> > tel. 0032 16 329731
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > *From:* discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
> > [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *daniele.ocu 
> > ocu
> > *Sent:* 15 December 2009 18:07
> > *To:* discuss at lists.osgeo.org
> > *Subject:* [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models
> >
> > Dear Rafal,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your considerations. I am also very thankful 
> > for the suggestions. I am sorry if the statements in the report 
> > appeared to be hasty but I totally agree with you, the research is 
> > only in the beginning and I will go on increasing the contact with 
> > the companies and lists you suggested.
> >
> > Daniele
> >
> > --
> > Researcher @ Osaka City University
> > Graduate School for Creative Cities
> > http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends
> >
> > "My interest is in the future because I am going to spend the rest 
> > of my life there."
> > - Charles F. Kettering
> >
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