[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

Paul Ramsey pramsey at cleverelephant.ca
Sun Dec 20 13:47:12 PST 2009

I'll do that talk, if there's really interest in it, but it has
nothing to do with technology or desktops, it's sociology and
psychology. And no, efforts cannot "be consolidated" (active
intervention) they "may consolidate" (natural progression).


- Why? "Because, we felt like it, and we knew better."
- Pros and cons? Weighted in favor of the

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Brian Russo <brian at beruna.org> wrote:
> I think a more interesting presentation would be why there are so many
> desktop GIS packages, the consequent pros/cons, and if/how efforts could be
> consolidated.
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Stefan Steiniger <sstein at geo.uzh.ch>
> wrote:
>> Hei all,
>> thanks for Cameron on keeping me in the loop, and to Markus for
>> remembering :)  I am now subscribed to this list.
>> I think Pauls idea sounds interesting - because this whole comparison
>> thing is
>> a) quite cumbersome when we have 10 desktop GIS (+ X), and
>> b) neither really worth because desktop GIS are used for a multitude of
>> tasks, while web map Servers or databases aren't that much - right?
>> So as Paul is quoted on the osgeo wiki: one needs to set up use cases
>> first (just wrote that today in a new article too, which contains a section
>> on selecting free GIS software). And I also discovered that just most of the
>> projects have a different focus during my evaluation. Which of course does
>> not mean that such thing should not be presented - but it must be focussed
>> in some way or the other to have a benefit. And as a side note, I am not
>> sure if measuring processing times makes sense either, as GIS analysis
>> feature sets are so different.
>> However, I am in for testing with OpenJUMP.
>> Two more notes:
>> - my comparison tables are now already 2 years old now (from 2007), i.e.
>> need some update (but the last pub in Ecological Informatics took into
>> account newer developments too, but is superficial and focused towards the
>> "average" GIS users).
>> - I gave a talk about this at OGRS:
>> http://www.ogrs2009.org/doku.php?id=keynotes
>> pdf can be downloaded from there.
>> cheers from Germany right now (Xmas)
>> stefan
>> PS: I know also of this comparison by T. Hengl et al. on Grass vs. SAGA
>> for Geomorphologic Analysis
>> http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano/downloads/Hengl_etal_2009_gmorph.pdf
>> Paul Ramsey schrieb:
>>> Interested in a different approach that is lower impact, but still
>>> interesting and entertaining? Have developers review a "competing"
>>> project and then present their findings, in the form of "What I love
>>> about ___, what I hate about____".
>>> Jody Garnett presents "What I love about QGIS, what I hate about QGIS."
>>> Jorge Sanz presents "What I love about uDig, what I hate about uDig."
>>> Tim Sutton presents "What I love about gvSIG, what I hate about gvSIG."
>>> Not only do you get an unvarnished view, but you can have shorter
>>> presentations with a discussion segment at the end of each one.
>>> Works for almost any application category too.
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