[OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

Bob Basques Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
Wed Oct 6 10:41:12 PDT 2010


Allen, 

You need the Centimeter stuff to realize that something moved over the two years.  Besides, that just ends up being a re-projection in the end anyway. 

  :c) 

bobb 



>>> Allan Doyle <afdoyle at MIT.EDU> wrote:


On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Bob Basques wrote:

>  All,
>
> I'm a long time address database creation/maintenance/re-creation fiend myself.
>
> I've also been working with the USNG (MGRS) gridding system the last few years, and need to at least suggest the idea of
> using a Gridding system to locate things.  This idea is not nbew, but USNG usage has gained quite a bit of ground the
> last couple of years across all level of government, with a large emphasis placed on using it for disaster response.
>
> Tying a placeName to a grid location that can describe things down to the centimeter if needed and still stay unique as
> a location is a very good thing.

Don't be too sure at the centimeter level.

"The average rate of motion across the San Andreas Fault Zone during the past 3 million years is 56 mm/yr (2 in/yr). " -- http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/facts.php

I like Chris Schmidt's quote: "The world is fuzzier than you realize".

Allan


>
> bobb
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2010 8:52 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
>> The geonames ontology looks like it might work for me. I'll read it over tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:45 PM, "Ian Turton"<ijturton at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt
>>> <crschmidt at crschmidt.net>  wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>> "All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF" . ?
>>>> That was actually my first thought when I saw this: "Hey look,
>>>> someone else reinventing RDFa!" :)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, I say this with a bit of knowledge; I mean, after all,
>>>> I sort of work on making places searchable on maps. For a company
>>>> with a pretty big set of data about the hierarchy of the world.
>>>> It's a lot fuzzier than you think :)
>>>>
>>>> Also, Landon, I do highly recommend looking into RDF -- specifically,
>>>> RDFa -- because I think it's heading in a very similar direction to
>>>> what you're describing, without the need for some all-world-hierarchy
>>>> to tie it to, which might actually help you get a bit further.
>>>
>>> You might want to look at http://www.geonames.org/ontology/ which RDFs
>>> the GeoNames database.
>>>
>>> Ian
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