[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Java apps: better get working on your OpenJDK port ...

[Jody Garnett]

See the link I sent earlier[1]; it seems that this is more to do with OpenJDK being the reference implementation going forward. 

The license / distribution trouble was always in place ... and they had a workaround going. Now that OpenJDK is reference implementation; they are starting to retire their workaround.
-- 
Jody Garnett
[1] http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/12/why-java-isnt-dead-on-ubuntu/index.htm


On Thursday, 22 December 2011 at 6:43 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

> I'm forwarding this email onto the OSGeo-Discuss list, as Hamish has 
> identified the high impact implications of Sun/Oracle licencing, which 
> seems to imply that most OSGeo java based projects will need to start 
> supporting OpenJDK if they wish to support most users on linux based 
> operating systems.
> 
> ...
> 
> As outlined by Hamish below, the Sun/Oracle Java cannot legally be 
> installed using ubuntu installers - people will need to download from 
> the Oracle website instead.
> We possibly could use Sun Java with the next, March 2012 based OSGeo 5.5 
> release (as we are basing upon the old Xubuntu 11.04), but we would 
> probably not be able to legally include any java based security updates.
> 
> For OSGeo-Live 6, for FOSS4G 2012 in Sept, we will likely only have the 
> option of using OpenJDK and not Sun-Java.
> 
> I'd like to hear advice from each Java based projects as to the 
> feasibility of migrating to OpenJDK, and what you recommend we do on the 
> OSGeo-Live project.
> 
> Please respond on the live-demo at lists.osgeo.org (mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org) list.
> 
> 
> On 21/12/2011 9:53 AM, Hamish wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > as we suspected would happen eventually, Oracle is
> > pulling the rug out and retiring their Java-6 Open
> > Distribution license, so in future end-users will
> > have to download it themselves. thus anything which
> > doesn't work with OpenJDK is going to be SOL very
> > soon as we can't legally ship Sun's Java6 anymore.
> > dunno if that also applies to the JAI library
> > which is in the same license boat.
> > 
> > on the plus side:
> > -OpenJDK has come a really long way recently
> > -hey maybe this frees us up some disc space
> > 
> > I don't know if it will still be in the 11.04 repos
> > (as anything other than a wrapper package that says
> > it isn't there any more) by the time of our final
> > build; the java browser plugin is already disabled
> > in 10.04LTS+ as ubuntu aren't allowed to distribute
> > bug fixes to known security holes in it.
> > 
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html 
> > 
> > 
> > http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html
> > 
> > 
> > If you want to live dangerously and hold on to what
> > you've got, before it gets removed by a security
> > update:
> > 
> > sudo aptitude hold sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk
> > 
> > sudo su
> > echo "sun-java6-jdk hold" | dpkg --set-selections
> > echo "sun-java6-jre hold" | dpkg --set-selections
> > echo "sun-java6-bin hold" | dpkg --set-selections
> > 
> > (I consider the browser plugin to be a no-hoper so
> > leave it out of the above)
> > 
> > 
> > have fun,
> > Hamish
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> > http://live.osgeo.org
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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