[OSGeo-Discuss] project not found in list

Jeff McKenna jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
Tue May 21 07:45:17 PDT 2013

Hi Andrew,

I agree, it's great to see all of the variety of communities, it's great
for everyone.  At the same time there's nothing wrong with promoting our
own community (exactly like what you do yourself so well).


On 2013-05-21 11:40 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:
> Jeff,
> For what it's worth, people participate in a wide variety of communities
> and have for sometime. The world is diverse with plenty of room for all.
> We're seeing some good cross community support and initiatives, which is
> great. It might make sense to encourage it and celebrate it to nurture more.
> To overreach and lay claim to it demonstrates Adrian's point with little
> truly gained.
> A rising tide raises all boats.
> Andrew
> Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>     Hi Adrian, comments below:
>     On 2013-05-19 11:50 PM, Adrian Custer wrote:
>         Yes, OSGeo has been primarily focused on its own projects and
>         historically has been weak at recognizing and promoting other
>         efforts.
>         Now that spatial has become ubiquitous it is more obvious that
>         there is
>         great work going on in lots of different places. The R statistical
>         library, for example, has done a huge amount of work on spatial
>         analysis
>         over the past decade but does not get mentioned much. More
>         recently, the
>         Eclipse foundation has started a major push as well and there
>         are many
>         new projects online.
>         OSGeo is one player among many others and is slowly being forced to
>         recognize that. OSGeo might eventually change from seeing its
>         role as
>         promoting itself and its projects to taking on an expanded role of
>         promoting all the geospatial software that provides its users with
>         various freedoms. Unfortunately, the organization has been
>         structured
>         around insiders and outsiders in its membership and its projects
>         so that
>         split has become a deep part of its psyche---it will be hard for
>         OSGeo
>         to complete such a change though many are willing.
>     I must say, having spoken to you face-to-face about this at FOSS4G-BA
>     helps me understand your points.  You make very good points.  However it
>     is clear that OSGeo has become *the* voice for Open Source geospatial;
>     look at how OSGeo was/is involved in the recent OGC standards discussion
>     (even you came into the discussions with OSGeo, when you could have done
>     this through any other group), and also take a look at the proposals for
>     the 2014 FOSS4G event, OSGeo's flagship even
>      t
>     (there are proposal teams
>     from the groups you mentioned above).
>     What does this tell us?  It tells us that yes there are many groups out
>     there in the geospatial world, but, through the hard work of the OSGeo
>     community since 2006, OSGeo has become the leader in Open Source
>     geospatial today, and the other groups realize this.
>     I personally will take what you mentioned in this email (which you told
>     me to my face at FOSS4G-BA) and adapt my message to promote other groups
>     as well, but, it is clear to me that we/OSGeo does have a strong voice
>     in the geospatial world.
>     -jeff
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> Andrew

Jeff McKenna
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