[OSGeo-Discuss] OGC liaison memberships

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu May 30 13:42:28 PDT 2013

OGC voting organisations typically have 1 vote, (2 people who have 
permissions to caste that vote), and each organisation has their own 
process for determining that vote.

I'd suggest that OSGeo should have a committee and set of processes for 
determining the vote. One issue we are going to face is getting swamped 
with the large number of OGC standards that get voted on. I'd be 
interested to hear Adrian's thoughts on this.

On 31/05/2013 6:35 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
> I've been also thinking of OGC voting rights for the OSGeo Foundation.
> I wonder if we should discuss this together during the next Board
> meeting. (how OSGeo can become a voting member)
> -jeff
> On 2013-05-30 5:31 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> +1 from me too.
>> Based on the depth of valuable feedback that OGC received from OSGeo
>> regarding Geoservices REST API, with Adrian being a significant
>> contributor, I believe that we have a good argument to ask for voting
>> rights. (We might not get it, but at least we should ask).
>> On 31/05/2013 4:35 AM, Adrian Custer wrote:
>>> On 5/30/13 2:54 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>>>> Adrian,
>>>> According to http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OGC_membership we have open
>>>> slots.
>>>>    It seems that Arnulf and Michael can authorize it.  There are some
>>>> fairly
>>>> restrictive conditions on OGC individual memberships which is what
>>>> this is.
>>>>    You should confirm you are going to fit.
>>>>     http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/join/level/individual
>>> Indeed that is my current status: the 'you can do all the work but
>>> can't vote' level of membership.
>>>> It isn't clear that these memberships imply you exactly speak for OSGeo
>>>> though you can certainly give your affiliation as OSGeo.
>>> Right. I could only 'speak for OSGeo' on any particular topic when,
>>> after discussion, OSGeo has formulated one, or probably several,
>>> positions on any issues. In general I would speak as 'one of the horde
>>> of free software actors'.
>>>> It would be wonderful to use this mechanism to give you standing at
>>>> OGC as
>>>> I know you will make good use of it.
>>> Thanks.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Frank
>>> ~adrian
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Adrian Custer <acuster at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> As I remember it, OSGeo has been granted a number of liaison
>>>>> memberships
>>>>> (six?) from the OGC. Are they all being used? If not, what would be the
>>>>> process to obtain one?
>>>>> In past years, I have been reluctant to officially represent OSGeo
>>>>> and so
>>>>> have paid for a membership on my own. Nonetheless, I have been
>>>>> pushing the
>>>>> OGC on openness, the consideration of free software, and issues arising
>>>>> from the 'OSGeo point of view' ever since I started participating at
>>>>> the
>>>>> OGC. I have also been acting unofficially as a bridge between the two
>>>>> organizations (with the good and bad that comes from that such as,
>>>>> in the
>>>>> last few days, being unable to announce the end of the 'GeoServices
>>>>> REST'
>>>>> debacle). Now I am considering making this work and my association
>>>>> between
>>>>> the two organizations more formal.
>>>>> Therefore, if you all are willing, and if a membership were
>>>>> available, I
>>>>> would like to take this on as a formal role and represent all of you
>>>>> at the
>>>>> OGC. It would mean I would show up to meetings and sign my
>>>>> authorship of
>>>>> whatever documents with the affiliation 'OSGeo'. In the future, I also
>>>>> would plan to lobby the OGC to grant OSGeo a formal vote in the
>>>>> proceedings
>>>>> of the technical committee. That will be hard to obtain since we
>>>>> will not
>>>>> be pitching in the mega-cash that the OGC needs to sustain their way of
>>>>> operating; however, it might be possible someday, especially if we
>>>>> start
>>>>> contributing effectively to their work.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>     Adrian Custer
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