[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future

[Frank Warmerdam]

Folks,

I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
there.

 http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev

I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
between different packaging efforts.

Best regards,
Frank


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <jocook at astuntechnology.com> wrote:
> The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
> privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
> smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no mysql
> etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
> many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
> windows 8 VM to test on at last.
>
> I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
> spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some work
> to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which files
> I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
> repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
> honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on things
> outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
> guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to issues
> in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little pet
> project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!
>
> Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!
>
> I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
> project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
> maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's always
> better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
> objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows for
> each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to oversee
> that and go through incubation.
>
> Jo
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >>
>> >> I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks
>> >> incubation process.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Angelos
>> >>
>> > My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
>> > users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great
>> > documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
>> > needing to be admin or having to install different programs.
>>
>> I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
>> PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)
>>
>> There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
>> windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by extensively
>> modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
>> run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
>> required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
>> about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
>> folder).
>>
>> This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
>> products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
>> figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
>> virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization
>> software.
>>
>> I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't
>> be shared.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
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