[OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Jody Garnett]

Short term answer is that there was a bit
<http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20130205_ef_enables_locationtech.php>
of
<http://www.directionsmag.com/articles/locationtech-the-next-step-for-the-open-source-geospatial-software-com/308459>
publicity <http://www.geospatialworld.net/Professional/ViewBlog.aspx?id=274>
when
<http://slashgeo.org/2013/02/08/LocationTech-Initiative-Launched-Eclipse-Foundation>
LocationTech was launched. I wrote a couple of blogs
<http://www.lisasoft.com/blog/programming-public-osgeo-and-locationtech>
posts
<http://www.lisasoft.com/blog/comments-osgeo-and-locationtech-development-culture>
at
the time, but progress has been slow so I have not written lately.

Jody Garnett

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM, P Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good questions Rich. I had never heard of LocationTech until this
> discussion started, which indicates to me how removed I am from this
> discussion (and general OSGeo day-to-day admin/affairs). Nevertheless,
> seems like everything is sorted out and everyone is happy. Let's get back
> to coding and making great apps.
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Richard Greenwood <
> richard.greenwood at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't get it, and my question is moot at this point in time, but why do
>> we need a new foundation? Why couldn't OSGeo have provided what
>> LocationTech purports to provide? Was there any discussion, or awareness,
>> in the OSGeo board prior to the formation of LocationTech?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jeff McKenna <
>> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Arnulf,
>>>
>>> I definitely agree that both foundations fill a role and need to exist.
>>>
>>> The point I am trying to make is that we have the power to change OSGeo,
>>> if we feel some needs are not being met well.
>>>
>>> I used too strong of words again, I am sorry.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-09-15 2:59 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Jeff,
>>>> I believe that Daniel is actually right in what he says - given that I
>>>> understand the point he is trying to make. There are differences
>>>> between OSGeo and LocationTech and trying to talk them away will not
>>>> get us anywhere. And its not "bad" or "goo" either way, we just
>>>> operate differently.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that in OSGeo you cannot move anything at all as a
>>>> business, not directly. In LocationTech you become a corporate member,
>>>> pay money and in return have influence over certain things and get
>>>> support. Directly geared towards your specific needs. OSGeo does none
>>>> of those things.
>>>>
>>>> As an individual (with or without business) you can become the
>>>> committee chair and an OSGeo officer with absolutely no preconditions,
>>>> no money needed, no organizational backing and no other hierarchy.
>>>> Just because othes think you are doing a cool job and have accumulated
>>>> enough merit to go ahead as a leader. This would not work in this way
>>>> in LocationTech.
>>>>
>>>> Both ways have reasons to exist and are good. Right?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> Arnulf
>>>>
>>>> Am 2014-09-15 10:45, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in
>>>>>> Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo.  OSGeo members
>>>>> are made up of all walks of life, and many are running private
>>>>> businesses all around the world.  I have visited their
>>>>> organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G travels throughout the
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> However I cannot change how you feel.
>>>>>
>>>>> This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made publicly,
>>>>> which I feel are made to divide our community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events (of
>>>>> all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no sole focus
>>>>> on one type of community.  And as the President of OSGeo, I am
>>>>> happy to represent all of the members, of any kind :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Richard W. Greenwood, PLS
>> www.greenwoodmap.com
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