[OSGeo-Discuss] New Semantic Mediawiki based OSGeo Member Map for the OSGeo Wiki

Christian Willmes c.willmes at uni-koeln.de
Fri Dec 4 09:11:05 PST 2015 

Hello,

I edited all the advocates profiles [0] during the last week. To get the 
unstructured informations into the templates, due to the not so fast 
server this was quite time consuming (and very boring too).

I would like to ask for feedback, especially on the formatting of the 
display templates (how the profile data is displayed in the list), what 
could be improved etc.

I don't have a OSGeo_Committer.png icon, to display the new created 
"Committer" skill/experience role in the templates. Who has the original 
templates for these skill/experience icons?

Some people have double entries, which means they have the structured 
data (template) on two wiki pages. I would like to ask them to remove 
one of the two templates by them self.

I also replaced the inclusion of User profiles on the Board Member 
Profiles Page [1] with a query generated list, map and table of board 
members, because that page inclusion was causing additional entries in 
the lists generated from the query.

And FYI: Because of a spam problem on the wiki, we (SAC list) decided to 
disable account creation for now (until we have a solution for this).

Cheers,
Christian

[0] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Profiles

Am 30.11.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Christian Willmes:
> I am now about half way through the Advocates profiles.
>
> If you look at the Advocate Page [1], all profiles above 
> "Europe:Netherlands" are now "on the map", or have some structured 
> data to appear in the query result.
>
> I added just data that was available from the user: pages, and if no 
> coordinates were available I gecoded the address or just city center. 
> Please check and correct my possible copy&paste errors on your profile.
>
> I would not mind if some of you would care to structure their user 
> data by them self. ;)
> But Ok, I did not really documented it yet, so I will proceed tomorrow 
> evening (CET) with the next profiles...
>
> @Cameron: I adjusted the zoom level for the maps according your comment.
>
> Christian
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>
> On 30.11.2015 20:47, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>> Thanks for all you are doing, and for updating profiles. I think I might
>> have caught you mid update, because there are a number of profiles which
>> seem to be half converted.
>>
>> For the record, I've reviewed many people's profiles, (typically
>> correcting English, or trimming to fit within the template formula).
>> After notifying people of the updates I made, I haven't received any
>> complaints, and have received many thanks. So I think you are reasonably
>> safe in helping everyone as you are doing.
>>
>> One comment on the map.
>> I notice that the zoom level is set to about a city zoom level. I
>> suggest it would be better to zoom to a world level, or maybe 1/4 of a
>> world.
>>
>> The main readers of this page will be looking for "Who is living near my
>> conference", and it is easier to recognise a world view rather than a
>> city view.
>>
>> Thanks Cameron
>>
>> On 30/11/2015 11:15 pm, Christian Willmes wrote:
>>> OK, I will do this changes now.
>>> You will probably get email notifications of changes to your profiles.
>>> Just revert them, if you don't like the changes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Am 30.11.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Christian Willmes:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> just to explain this a bit more.
>>>>
>>>> Here [1], I included the Advocate Table, Map and new directory list,
>>>> generated from querying the strucutred data. You can see, that the
>>>> current Advocate Page messes up the SMW structured data. Because I
>>>> configured the model that SMW handles one page containing
>>>> [[Category:OSGeo Advocate]] as one OSGeo Advocate entity.
>>>>
>>>> Currently the Advocate Directory [2] includes the data (markup) from
>>>> the included User: profiles, that are containing coordinates,
>>>> addresses, email, etc..
>>>>
>>>> If it is ok, I will remove the '[[Category:OSGeo Advocate]]' string
>>>> from the current Advocate directory page [2]. This will clean the
>>>> current mess in the SMW generated lists/tables/maps.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Usermap-develop
>>>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>>>>
>>>> Am 29.11.2015 um 21:06 schrieb Christian Willmes:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I implemented most of the feedback. Some issues are still open [0],
>>>>> I will take care of them soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> To roll the Advocate list out, I need to remove the User page
>>>>> includes from the current Advocate directory [1], and each
>>>>> Advocate's User: page needs to be edited, with the following two 
>>>>> steps:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Include  '[[Category:OSGeo Advocate]]' on the User: page
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Edit the User: page with this [2] Form and enter the according
>>>>> structured data. (got to the link enter 'User:<your username>' into
>>>>> the input box and click on 'create or edit'.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can do this... but maybe people are sensitive about their own
>>>>> territory (i.e. their own user: page) in the wiki, so I was unsure
>>>>> about that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Next, the User: page includes ({{User:<ussername>}}) on the Advocate
>>>>> directory [1] need to be removed, and replaced by the new directory,
>>>>> table and map from SMW query.
>>>>>
>>>>> See here [3] and here [4] how these directory, table and map look
>>>>> like on the test wiki (if you look at the markup/source you can see
>>>>> how the list, table and maps are included.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Please also provide further feedback, on things like layout and
>>>>> additional features etc. You can tell me directly, or file an issue
>>>>> on the github repository [0].
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>> [0] https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki/issues
>>>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>>>>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Form:OSGeo_Member
>>>>> [3] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Advocate_List
>>>>> [4] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeo_Advocate
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25.11.2015 23:18, Christian Willmes wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you for your very good Feedback Cameron and Jorge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created your feedback points as issues for the OSGeo Wiki SMW 
>>>>>> model
>>>>>> repository [1]. So you can track the progress, some of them are a 
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>> tricky, I think I will need some days. I plan to add the changes
>>>>>> during
>>>>>> the coming weekend into the OSGeo wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some answers to questions or feedback, I did not implemented
>>>>>> already or
>>>>>> created an issue on github for, are inline below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25.11.2015 12:05, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>> I wasn't able to test entering data on the page. (I assume the wiki
>>>>>>> hasn't been set up for that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes account creation is disabled, if you want an account for 
>>>>>> testing I
>>>>>> can set one up and send the credentials of list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should be careful about helping people protect their personal
>>>>>>> privacy.
>>>>>>> Re address, I'd err on not collecting Street address, probably
>>>>>>> just City
>>>>>>> and Country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The field is optional. Maybe someone want to give the address of his
>>>>>> work place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it possible to apply address validation to check for spelling
>>>>>>> errors?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting, but I don't know any implementation for this problem 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Mediawiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25/11/2015 8:21 am, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I guess the last update info can be retrieved directly from 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> history of the page if needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This one is quite tricky, because I have to find out how to 
>>>>>> trigger an
>>>>>> update of the members data from a users (unrelated) activity on the
>>>>>> wiki. It should be possible dynamically through the API, but I'm not
>>>>>> 100% sure yet on how to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki/issues
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