[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o
Jody Garnett
jody.garnett at gmail.com
Wed Dec 16 15:05:26 PST 2015
I can provide an update - but I am not sure what is interesting. Most of
the things LocationTech does are advertised here on the discussion list (if
they are an event <https://www.locationtech.org/events>) or via twitter
(for news <https://www.locationtech.org/news>).
Most communication in LocationTech (just like with OSGeo) is focused on
projects and committers. There is a monthly meeting of project leads for
example. This is where I am involved personally, with the primary goal of
getting some official project releases made. LocationTech has a few new
members this year (which is great but I am more interested in what projects
they bring to the table).
LocationTech has been doing a good job of outreach activities. LocationTech
participates in a number of conferences, sometimes as an organizer
sometimes as an attendee. They key event is the "LocationTech Tour" which
visits a number of cities and always has a mix of OSGeo and LocationTech
content.
I guess you are asking about what is happening between OSGeo and
LocationTech:
* There was a code sprint in Philadelphia with a mix of OSGeo and
LocationTech projects
* The LocationTech Tour has been well attended. We had a great event here
in Victoria highlighting GeoServer, PostGIS, Torque, QGIS, GeoGig. It was
for some students there first non ESRI experience with mapping software. I
wrote a blog post
<http://www.how2map.com/2015/10/locationtech-tour-2015.html> on that one
* FOSS4G NA 2015 was a joint conference earlier in the year - this was well
covered by blogs
* Other than that there is lots of casual collaboration between projects,
but nothing official (but I hope to fix that next year)
When wrote up what I wanted to do as an OSGeo board member one of my goals
is to improve collaborations (such as this one with LocationTech) so we can
better make use of our resources as a community.
I have done a couple of talks comparing
<http://www.slideshare.net/jgarnett/foundation-comparison-53674364> the two
organizations - but the real message there is advocating for responsible
open source development (OSGeo and LocationTech are just a couple of the
organizations available to help projects play safe on the internet).
I guess I am not quite sure what you are looking for Steve?
--
Jody Garnett
On 16 December 2015 at 13:01, Stephen Woodbridge <woodbri at swoodbridge.com>
wrote:
> I think there is another facet of communication that is being missed and
> is probably part of the current issue. I think the OSGeo member of
> LocationTech should also be responsible for keep the OSGeo membership more
> informed about what is happening between the two organizations.
>
> I think it is natural for our members to react defensively when surprised
> by new information that seems to be detrimental to our organization. Keep
> members more informed on a regular basis would help.
>
> I for one do not have time to read through all the minutes of the board
> meeting and various other committee meetings and would appreciate a summary
> getting posted to Discuss.
>
> -Steve
>
> On 12/16/2015 2:34 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
>> The board is aware of public perception and I trust it will be on the
>> agenda for f2f meeting.
>>
>> I think we can do a bit better than a statement - in our last board
>> meeting Micheal Smith has volunteered to be our OSGeo representative to
>> LocationTech. OSGeo is a member of LocationTech and we have been remiss
>> in keeping communication going in an official capacity (by supplying a
>> representative). We can issue a press release to that effect to have a
>> publicly visible sign of communication/collaboration.
>>
>> Thank you for reassurance on the selection process Jeroen - all three
>> were very strong bids.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 16 December 2015 at 05:29, Jeroen Ticheler
>> <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net <mailto:jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It
>> is very much time to stop the negative sentiments around
>> LocationTech, FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a
>> partner and so forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need
>> within OSGeo AND with others in the (geo-)community.
>>
>> I’ve heard negative sentiments about the FOSS4G 2017 selection
>> process. As a member of the Conference Committee I would like to
>> state here that I am convinced the LocationTech issue was not as
>> decisive for most members as people outside the committee seem to
>> think. It was an aspect discussed thoroughly, as were other aspects
>> of the proposals.
>>
>> I hope the Face to Face meeting end of January by the OSGeo board
>> hosted in our GeoCat office will be constructive and positive from
>> all angles. But at this stage I also call upon the OSGeo Board to
>> come forward with a statement that helps to unify the OSGeo
>> community and give directions. There seems to be a vacuum in the
>> leadership right now with Jeff’s sudden resignation that should be
>> filled as soon as possible.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Jeroen
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>>> On 16 dec. 2015, at 12:29, Ian Edwards <iedwards.pub at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:iedwards.pub at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> /"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going
>>> on"/
>>>
>>>
>>> This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely
>>> stop because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo.
>>>
>>> We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has
>>> resigned his charter member status) and the OSGeo president, both
>>> in relation to how we've conducted ourselves in relation to other
>>> organisations in the community. These internal losses are not due
>>> to there being other organisations in the geospatial world, nor
>>> how they are acting - but instead our losses are due to how we
>>> ourselves are thinking and behaving.
>>>
>>> OSGeo should positively support all elements of the geospatial
>>> community including users, developers and also other organisations
>>> to the fullest and best of our ability. By doing this we become
>>> stronger (instead of weaker) and will remain useful, relevant and
>>> of interest to the community who will continue to invest their
>>> energy and efforts with us and recognise our unique value and
>>> position.
>>>
>>> In relation to LocationTech - similar divisions exist across the
>>> entire Open Source world (take a look at LibreOffice and
>>> OpenOffice, or MariaDB and MySQL). The broard "FOSS4G" community
>>> (encompassing both OSGeo and LocationTech) is not alone in facing
>>> this, and my hope is that OSGeo can once again be a beacon to the
>>> rest of the open source world and show how best to embrace these
>>> differences, understand the strengths and weakness in both camps,
>>> and work together for the positive benefit of our diverse community.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ian Edwards
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Puneet Kishor
>>> <punk.kish at gmail.com <mailto:punk.kish at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptressel at myuw.net
>>> <mailto:ptressel at myuw.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire
>>> these days, you'd be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses
>>> for Mac clones, suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on getting apps on
>>> iTunes, removing fitness tracker products from their stores because they
>>> might compete with the Apple Watch, etc. -- do a search for "apple anti
>>> competitive practices")
>>>
>>> You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is
>>> indeed very relevant and useful and argues correctly for
>>> sanity instead of knee-jerk accusations (until the above
>>> assertions, of course).
>>>
>>> The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location
>>> Tech bashing going on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's
>>> stick to keeping OSGeo a fun, useful champion of free and open
>>> geospatial without becoming anti-anything-free, partisan and
>>> possibly irrelevant.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Puneet Kishor
>>> Just Another Creative Commoner
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