[OSGeo-Discuss] Munich Orientation Convention, Mapcodes, and All the Rest

Pericles Nacionales naci0002 at umn.edu
Fri Jul 31 05:43:30 PDT 2015


I would have thought discussions like this is perfect for this list. It is
of general interest and it reaches a lot more people. I'd say discuss away.

-Perry
On Jul 30, 2015 11:28 AM, "Dan Ames" <dan.ames at byu.edu> wrote:

> Fascinating discussion, though I agree with David that is belongs on the
> Standards Committee mailing list. Thanks for the enlightening info though!
> - Dan
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:12 AM Steve Swazee <sdswazee at sharedgeo.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Hardly confused.  Two of three principal originators of GeoMOOSE are on
>> staff.  Served as the fiscal agent for FOSS4G NA 2013.  Former member of
>> the GITA board of directors.
>>
>>
>>
>> It matters what you program.  If you want your software to have utility
>> and gain acceptance, I am suggesting incorporation of USNG/MGRS as a
>> feature would have value.  Likewise, it would be providing a service.
>>
>>
>>
>> Per the bombing story attributed to a confusion of mapping standards –
>> concrete example would be beneficial.  I used to teach Close Air Support in
>> the USMC and to be certain mistakes happen.  It is doubtfully, however,
>> that it was due to none standard cartography among NATO troops, and far
>> more likely due to another issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijturton at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:40 AM
>> *To:* Swazee, Steve <sdswazee at sharedgeo.org>
>> *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Munich Orientation Convention, Mapcodes,
>> and All the Rest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now that I have your attention, I believe you and the rest of the OSGeo
>> community would be well served by spending some time truly learning about
>> this issue.  In so doing, I’m sure the open minds among you will come to
>> the conclusion that USNG/MGRS is the answer to the issue I am addressing.
>> OSGeo could do the world a heap of good in doing so.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fascinating as this discussion is  I can't help wondering if you (as a
>> group) are confused as to what OSGeo does? - we write software and if you
>> publish a standard there is a fair chance we will write some code to
>> integrate that code into our software, especially if there is user demand.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I expect you are preaching to the wrong people - either we care or we
>> don't but most of us have no power to change the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the risk of prolonging this discussion I'll add the following.
>>
>> Currently I'm not seeing any demand for this from users - I hear a lot of
>> talk about military and 1st responders but the last time I talked to a
>> military guy he was telling hair raising stories of US Army planes bombing
>> UK troops because they both use a grid system but the the US has letters up
>> the side of the map and the UK has letters across the bottom (it was
>> slightly more complex than that but basically that was the problem), so
>> their requirement was for WGS84 coordinates to match their GPS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian
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