[OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of having Open Principles in Education for our future generations

Ravi Kumar manarajahmundry2015 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 28 22:49:34 PDT 2015 

The developing world including India battles a scourge 'P I R A C Y'.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/it-services/Nehru-Place-A-beehive-for-software-piracy/articleshow/11349126.cms
Unless this affliction to society is cured, Open Source Software will have
very slow growth.
While I teach Open GIS, I am flooded with questions like, 'Where is the
employment prospect'. (Their answer) 'Learn the popular GIS and the
Students will find a sure job'..
With Govt of India pitching for Open Source, is to be added with a vigorous
'Anti-Piracy Policy'.. Call it 'Zero Tolerance'. While at FOSS4G India 2015
Dehradun, a speaker from Gujarat narrated a story of how schools were
supplied with computers with no other Operating System but an Ubuntu DVD.
Schools, are in a state that they are not even aware of 'The Existance of
OS, and it's need'. They just shifted to the popular OS, and it is an easy
guess HOW.
So when it comes to countries like India (and other developing countries),
education of Open-GIS, has to include merits of FOSS, and FOSSGIS.

The most popular proprietary GIS in India, is available every where, with
what is known as a 'CRACK', to open. There are hardly any legal cases that
can be searched on the WEB.

Ravi

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Suchith Anand <
Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Colleagues,
>
> It was just by coincidence while i was working on getting data for a
> research paper  on "How to quantify the economic impact of Open Source
> Geospatial software "  that i came across  Randal Hale's email's on the
> difficulties faced by one high school in the USA for Proprietary software
> updates [1]. It was a clear wake up call on the consequences of Proprietary
> GIS agenda for schools and education. It was then i decided to send an Open
> request to  AAG  [2]and humbly request AAG to specifically include Open
> Education principles firmly in the new Advanced Placement course in
> Geographic Information Science and Technology (GIS&T).
>
> But on 22nd June 2015 when i read Dave Murray's (GIS Coordinator, City of
> Westminster, USA ) reply email on this ,i realised that this is a much
> wider problem  and we need to make all colleagues globally aware of the
> dangers of falling into some Proprietary vendor's very clever marketing
> trap.  Dave has kindly given me permission to share his email with the
> wider geo community  so the wider community is aware of these kind of
> marketing gimmicks and vendor lock-in tactics. It will help others realise
> the costs of being silent  as it is affecting not just government
> departments such as City of Westminister in USA and hundreds of other
> organisations worldwide  but our future generations education
> opportunities. I am determined to do my best to make sure education is not
> at the dictates of any vendor.
>
> Dave and  City of Westminster, USA are  just one of thousands who fall in
> the marketing gimmicks of various proprietary vendor's trap. Unfortunately
> many are very scared even to discuss this in public.
>
> In fact, the questions i asked AAG is also valid for all other educational
> initiatives worldwide to avoid them falling into these kind of marketing
> strategies of some Proprietary GIS vendors. I request all governments,
> universities in their education policy  worldwide  to look into the
> following important criteria :
>
> *  What is the guarantee that the proprietary GIS vendor will keep
> providing free services/software for the long term?
> *  If the Proprietary GIS vendor decides to change the costs and other
> conditions in say 5 or 10 years time what will happen to these hundreds of
> thousands of students? Can  anyone give us any guarantee.?
> *  If so, Who will be paying for this changed conditions later in say 5 or
> 10 years time?  Will it be the schools who have to pay or the government
> will give them funding for any changed conditions by the proprietary GIS
> vendor?
> *  If so, How much will be the yearly costs for the whole program  ?
>  *  What will then be total costs be to transition this to Open Platforms
> later?
>
> I really hope these thousands of schools and teachers (affecting hundreds
> of thousands of students) will not fall into this proprietary vendor's
> marketing trap and be at the mercy of vendor dictates later (in just 3-5
> year's time) .  Randal Hale's email has been eye opener for all and i
> decided to do my best so these schools do not have to suffer when they
> change their conditions later and the schools are unable or forced to pay
> these ridiculous costs later (as Dave's organisation City of Westminister
> have realised later).
>
> It is a wider education problem that as educators we need to be aware of.
> It will really be a missed opportunity for a generation and we  should not
> allow that (esp as we now know the background marketing gimmicks and vendor
> lock-in tactics and experiences from those affected previously). The
> schools should be investing precious resources on other important things
> (getting more teachers, investing in more teaching and learning facilities
> etc)  NOT being forced to pay   to some Proprietary GIS  vendors for access
> to their software in the future.
>
> Please don't be fooled by any  1 Billion or 10 or 100 Billion dollar  blah
> ...blah... "software donation"  clever marketing from any properitery GIS
> vendor!  Also organisations like AAG has a difficult dilemma on  will they
> support Open Principles in Education or will they knowingly lead hundreds
> of thousands of schools to  Proprietary vendor's trap because of strong
> sponsorship pressure.  .If a particular proprietary GIS vendor wants their
> software to be the ONLY one to used for any education program that is not
> real education but  just a software training program designed to building
> their user base and agenda in the name of widening geoeducation. I am
> hopeful AAG and others in similar situation worldwide will choose the right
> path which is in the interests of educators and students in the long term.
>
> Education means empowerment of educators and students and that is very
> important to keep in mind. That is why it is important to have open
> discussions and debates on this (some of my emails on this issue are not
> even allowed discussion in some mail lists for fear of upsetting sponsor)
>  .
>
> I am clear that as Educators we have to keep focus on Open Principles in
> education. For us, who are supporting Open Principles in Education , we do
> not have the money or power as the vendors, so it is educators like you all
> who have to make sure the right choices are made as it affects hundreds of
> thousands of students not only today but our future generations also.
>
> The aim of "Geo for All"  is to develop on a global basis collaboration
> opportunities for academia, industry and government organisations  for
> enabling open education opportunities for all by empowering academics and
> universities worldwide by using Open Principles in Geo Education . What is
> the point of teaching GIS to students  and taking away the tools from them
> after the course and telling them that now you need to buy these expensive
> Proprietary  software licenses if you want to continue using them after
> their course (which is what some proprietary GIS vendors would like!)
>
> The key message from all this is there are now many Open alternatives
> available for educators to make use of as per their needs. The focus of Geo
> education should be on the Science and understanding of the geospatial
> concepts and principles NOT on any particular software only. Open
> Principles are key for enabling this . Open Principles in Geoeducation
> will  ensure that our future generations are not at the mercy and dictates
> of any proprietary  GIS vendor.
>
> Let me make this very clear, we are not  interested in any proprietary GIS
> vs open  debates BUT it is very important that we keep our eyes open on any
> developments that undermine Open Principles in education and make sure that
> is corrected . Other wise it will have long term implications. That is
> exactly why we had to take action when we realised that there was efforts
> to undermine Open Standards in LiDAR [3].  Any direct or indirect efforts
> for creation of monopolies is not good for the wider economy or consumers
> and it is essential that there is always healthy competition.
>
> I have been advised  by some colleagues to ignore this development as
> there will be consequences  as the proprietary GIS vendor is very powerful
> and influential and opposing thier wrong actions and policies are not
> "adviceable".   But i had to take action  on this key geoeducation
> initiative as it is the future of thousands of schools and our future
> generations and we just cannot afford to close our eyes and be silent.
>
> I strongly believe access of good quality education is everyone's
> birthright and now we are for first time in history getting opportunity to
> make this possible. We will not accept putting artificial barriers like
> high cost Proprietary software which will continue denying quality
> education opportunities for millions of students globally (both in
> developed and developing countries).
>
> So why should i care ? Because i learned one of the most important lessons
> in my life in my childhood from my grandmother (who though did not get the
> opportunity of "proper education" herself taught me the importance of the
> values of  sharing and about  "Vasudeva Kudumbam" which means "We all
> belong to one large Universal family" and " Geo for All" is for my
> Universal family and i will do everything in my abilities to make sure
> education opportunities are open to all. I do not have the money or power
> to even dream of matching any proprietary vendor but i have God on my side
> and that is my greatest strength.
>
> Thank you for your support on this important matter. Together we can help
> enable good quality education opportunities of all our future generations.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith Anand
> http://www.geoforall.org
>
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-June/014310.html
> [2]
> http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/2015/06/open-gis-academics-and-educators-please-apply-to-aag-call-before-june-15th-2015/
> [3]  http://www.osgeo.org/node/1518
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Murray, Dave [DMurray at CityofWestminster.us]
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:43 PM
> To: 'Suchith Anand'
> Subject: FW: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
>  apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
> Suchith,
> We got caught in the proprietary vendor's trap a couple of years ago.  Our
> public works department adopted the vendor's online service.  We had a
> number of business operations running that were critical to our success.
> Then the vendor told us the service would cost $15,000 + per year to
> continue. Quite a shock and after we even promoted their service at
> conferences.  After that, I have real questions about what I can believe
> from them.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Dave Murray, GISP
> GIS Coordinator
> City of Westminster
> 4800 W 92nd Ave
> Westminster, CO 80031
> (303) 658-2140
> dmurray at cityofwestminster.us
> Hours: M-Th 7:00am -6:00pm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:07 AM
> To: Michael Solem
> Cc: ahlqvist.1 at osu.edu; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
> apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I would appreciate if you can provide answers to my main queries below
> that i also asked Diana (maybe you are in a better position to answer them
> in your role in AAG)
>
> *  What is the guarantee that the proprietary GIS vendor will keep
> providing free service for the long term?
> *  If the proprietary GIS vendor decides to change the costs and other
> conditions in say 5 or 10 years time what will happen to these hundreds of
> thousands of students? Can AAG or anyone give us any guarantee.?
> *  If so, Who will be paying for this changed conditions later in say 5 or
> 10 years time?  Will it be the schools who have to pay or will AAG give
> them funding for any changed conditions by the proprietary GIS vendor?
> *  If so, How much will be the yearly costs for the whole program  ?
>  *  What will then be total costs be to transition this to Open Platforms
> later?
>
>
> Thanks to Anthony for the info. on the source of learning objectives in
> GIS&T is the Geospatial Technology Competency Model
> http://www.careeronestop.org/competencymodel/competency-models/geospatial-technology.aspx
> If i understand correctly, the set of training materials in Creative
> Commons licence that GeoAcademy colleagues  have already developed (and
> running a very successful MOOC program) that includes these five GIS
> courses are based on the Geospatial Technology Competency Model. Phillip
> and others can provide you more details if needed.
>
>
>     GST 101 Introduction to Geospatial Technology Using QGIS 2.8
>     GST 102 Spatial Analysis Using QGIS 2.8
>     GST 103 Data Acquisition & Management Using QGIS 2.8
>     GST 104 Cartography Using QGIS 2.8
>     GST 105 Remote Sensing Using QGIS 2.8 & GRASS 7.0
>
> All the course materials are available at https://github.com/FOSS4GAcademy
>
> As i informed you before, these  will be a great platform for AAG to make
> use of for new AP course  in GIS&T  and use as the "Train the Trainer"
> program for this course.  Teachers can not only make use of the Open
> Educational materials  but more importantly they can get the Free and Open
> Source Geospatial Software for their needs.
>
> Sterling Quinn course on Open Web Mapping is also really good pointer
> https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog585/  (Thank you Anthony).
>
> The aim of "Geo for All"  is to empower academics and universities
> worldwide by using Free and Open Source GIS for education. What is the
> point of teaching GIS to students  and taking away the tools from them
> after the course and telling them that now you need to buy these expensive
> proprietary software licenses if you want to continue using them after
> their course (which is what the proprietary GIS vendors would like!)
>
> The key message from all this is there are many Open alternatives now
> available for educators to make use of as per their needs. The focus of Geo
> education should be on the Science and understanding of the geospatial
> concepts and principles NOT on any particular software only. Open
> Principles are key for enabling this.
>
> Thank you for your kind understanding.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
> ________________________________________
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [
> Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 8:41 PM
> To: Diana Sinton; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org; tucker at mapstory.org
> Cc: Michael Solem; Ola Ahlqvist
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
>  apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
> Hi Diana,
>
> Thank you for sharing your inputs. We want to make sure this AP course is
> successful in its intent and hence from the beginning making sure that
> steps are taken so that the students have meaningful learning experience
> each and every year (in the long term). Hence it is important to think
> about the long term implications as there is "a heavy technology component"
> for this AP and the cost/sustainability implications of relying on any
> particular proprietary vendor ONLY.
>
> Your reference to AP in Computer Science  (which has a similar
> substantial technology component)  and why and how Java became the choice (
> inspite of many other options ) is very important factor for AAG to look
> into carefully and make sure they do learn lessons from this . The vision
> and farsightedness of AP in Computer Science colleagues in choosing Java
> (over other options) in making sure  there is  GNU General Public License
> and cross-platform criteria  in the choice of AP Computer Science course is
> important to note for the planned AP in GIS &T  also as this is very key
> for the cost/sustainability  and long term implications as well empowering
> educators so that they are not at the mercy of any vendor alone due to any
> changed conditions later.
>
> I understand from Dr. Christopher K Tucker (Chairman of the Board of
> Trustees, The MapStory Foundation) that when MapStory [3] is relaunched
> later in June, it will be an openly licensed data commons, an Open
> Educational Resource, that is OGC compliant, built on open source geo  .
> It is intended explicitly for students to be able to organize and share
> what they know about the world spatially and temporally.  And, in the
> redesign, they will open up distributed versioned editing of change over
> time, so that students can collaborate on data collection projects, and
> then tell their own stories with this data. This is exactly the kind of
> spatial learning platform we need for expanding geoeducation for schools
> and empowering educators and also help design, implement, and analyze
> solutions to problems that have a geographic or spatial component.
>
> We will be in discussions with Map Story Foundation and other learned
> societies like The American Geographical Society (AGS) and we will do our
> best to support this excellent initiative  for  Open Principles in
> Education. I hope AAG  will keep other learned societies like AGS in the
> loop and involve them and initiatives like MapStory in this AP in GIS&T
> initiative.
>
> Also for info, I have not yet got a clear answer or guarantee from anyone
> to my basic question  i asked
>
> *  What is the guarantee that the proprietary GIS vendor will keep
> providing free service for the long term?
> *  If the proprietary GIS vendor decides to change the costs and other
> conditions in say 5 years time what will happen to these hundreds of
> thousands of students? Can AAG or anyone give us any guarantee.?
> *  If so, Who will be paying for this changed conditions later in say 5
> years time?  Will it be the schools who have to pay or will AAG give them
> funding for any changed conditions by the proprietary GIS vendor?
> *  If so, How much will be the yearly costs for the whole program  ?
>  *  What will then be total costs be to transition this to Open Platforms
> later?
>
> It is important that AAG really ought to discuss full details  about this
> before any software choice is made.
>
> Vendors can change their mind any time and the poor schools ,teachers and
> students will be left on thier own. Either they have to pay and buy  (maybe
> they will get some discount) but the fact of the matter is academics ,
> teachers and students are at the mercy of the vendor. If the properitory
> vendor decides to change the costs or terms, the schools and students will
> suffer.
>
> I clearly highlighted this problem when i recieved info. from one list
> member  (Randal Hale, USA ) informing of proprietary GIS software update
> problems faced by a high school in USA  [1] and that example was a real eye
> opener of the long term costs/sustainability issues of properitory GIS
> software in geoeducation and hence i decided to take action and contact AAG
> on this. In fact, i would think there are many more schools in the same
> situvation which we dont even know of.
>
> Education means empowerment of educators and students and that is very
> important to keep in mind. That is why it is important to have open
> discussions and debates on this. I hope AAG will not attempt to do any
> decisions under closed doors with any proprietary GIS vendor (because of
> sponsor pressure etc) as it  not good for educators and students interest
> in the long term .If a particular proprietary GIS vendor wants their
> software to be the ONLY one to used for this program that is not real
> education but  just a software training program designed to building their
> user base and agenda in the name of widening geoeducation.
>
> I am clear that as Educators we have to keep focus on Open Principles in
> education. For us, who are supporting Open Principles in Education , we do
> not have the money or power as the vendors, so it is educators like you all
> who have to make sure the right choices are made as it affects hundreds of
> thousands of students.
>
> Let me make this very clear, we are not  interested in any proprietary GIS
> vs open  debates BUT it is very important that we keep our eyes open on any
> developments that undermine Open Principles in education and make sure that
> is corrected . Other wise it will have long term implications. That is
> exactly why we had to take action when we realized that there was efforts
> to undermine Open Standards in LiDAR [2].
>
> I have been advised  by some colleagues to ignore this development as
> there will be consequences  as the proprietary GIS vendor is very powerful
> and influential and opposing thier wrong actions and policies are not
> "adviceable".   But i had to take action  on this key geoeducation
> initiative as it is the future of thousands of schools and we just cannot
> afford to close our eyes and be silent.
>
> I believe this new AP course  in GIS&T is a huge opportunity not only for
> expanding geoeducation opportunities for students across USA but also
> providing professional development for teachers and empowering them. We
> will strongly support this excellent initiative.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-June/014310.html
> [2] http://www.osgeo.org/node/1518
> [3] http://MapStory.org
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Diana Sinton [
> dianasinton at ucgis.org]
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:03 PM
> To: 'Anthony Robinson'; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> Cc: Ola Ahlqvist; Michael Solem
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
>  apply   to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
> These suggestions, agendas, and realities will somehow eventually blend if
> this AP course is ever actually launched AND successful in its intent. The
> desired outcomes are likely shared among GENIP, AAG, and all of these other
> voices discussing this (that hundreds of thousands of high school students
> have a positive experience learning how and why mapping, geographical
> thinking, and spatial analysis, through the use of modern and exciting
> technologies, can inform and support their knowledge, skills, and abilities
> to address local, global, societal issues and situations, etc.). But a
> clear vision for the curriculum and logistics for supporting it are going
> to be a super challenge, and opportunity.
>
>
> 1)      The College Board's system of Advanced Placement courses must
> necessarily be highly structured and externally validated so that
> universities will be willing to accept the academic credit that a student
> may try to transfer, IF the student earns a high enough grade on the exam
> or other type of course evaluation. Currently, there is much more agreement
> across higher education in the US about what a student ought to know in
> "Biology 101" or "Spanish 101" than "GIS&T 101." This is the list of
> current AP courses that the College Board supports<
> http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/courses/descriptions/index.html
> >.
>
>
>
> 2)      The only Geography-related AP class is Human Geography<
> https://apstudent.collegeboard.org/apcourse/ap-human-geography/course-details>.
> First introduced in 2001, it's become very popular and in 2012, over
> 190,000 students took the test<
> http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/courses/teachers_corner/220797.html>.
> The class is often perceived to be an "easy" one, and it's not uncommon for
> schools to allow or even encourage 9th graders<http://www.ncge.org/aphg>
> to take it. I couldn't find the stats quickly online, but I believe that
> many more 9th and 10th graders take it than 12th graders.  What will it
> mean for 9th or 10th graders to be taking GIS 101?  How would that affect
> credit-transfer rates? If many students take the class, and get only a 1 or
> 2 on the exam, will that still contribute to the overall desired outcome?
>
>
>
> 3)      The only other current AP class that has a substantial technology
> component is Computer Science (pdf<
> https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/ap/ap-course-overviews/ap-computer-science-a-course-overview.pdf>
> of its overview).  At some point along their curriculum design process, it
> was decided that Java would be the programming language of choice, so
> that's what students use, and schools must be able to provide "at least 3
> hrs/week of access to a computer lab for students" to be able to apply what
> they learn. Who knows why and how Java became the language of choice, but I
> imagine there were people who promoted others then too. There may be
> lessons learned available from the experience of those who currently
> support the Comp Sci AP.
>
>
>
> But more importantly, the first stated goal for the Comp Sci AP class is
> that students "design, implement, and analyze solutions to problems," and
> use of Java specifically falls much lower on the list.  I imagine that's
> the approach that we hope this new GIS&T course takes, that students
> "design, implement, and analyze solutions to problems that have a
> geographic or spatial component."  Right?
>
>
>
> 4)      Somehow, there will have to be some kind of hands-on activities
> that are part of a GIS 101 class. Maintaining a computer lab with machines
> that support Java scripting is obviously a more trivial matter than ones
> that can run desktop GIS programs. If you have any experience with computer
> labs in US high schools, you will know that the individual machine capacity
> is only one of many issues. Access, permissions, bandwidth, data and
> project storage, etc., will all become part of the complicated details
> about how something like this will be handled across thousands of different
> school districts. Why is one reason why browser-based solutions will be
> critical if this course has any chance of success.
>
>
>
> 5)      In order for any particular school to offer this course, they will
> have to identify existing (or new) teachers within their district willing
> and able to lead it. Ultimately that might mean the need for many, many
> hundreds of teachers with the confidence and competence to do this.
> Geography and GIS are very under-taught and under-learned subjects by
> educators in the US, and the current cohorts of such teachers is not nearly
> adequate, to put it mildly. How teaching and learning GIS is specifically
> connected with traditional measures of "spatial ability" is a complicated
> topic, but meanwhile, one undeniable characteristic of our current
> population of educators is that they are not, as a group, known for their
> spatial abilities<
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/finding-the-next-einstein/201208/three-reasons-why-schools-neglect-spatial-intelligence>.
> What are the implications of this for helping build their confidence and
> competence at teaching about coordinate systems, projec
>  tions, methods of data overlay and intersections, least cost path
> routing, deriving slope and aspect from digital elevation models, etc.?
> These are some of the more "spatial" things involved with many GIS 101
> courses.
>
>
>
> 6)      Expecting teachers to have confidence and competence knowing and
> teaching across multiple GIS applications will be exponentially challenging
> for them and, frankly, will likely discourage some from taking on this
> teaching assignment.  This will be a *huge* opportunity and need for
> professional development for teachers.
>
>
>
> 7)      Students take AP classes so that they can get transferrable
> credit. That's variable by the test score results and the colleges &
> universities considering the transferring in of that credit, and whether
> the credit is a general one or for a specific requirement at that
> university.  They are of little use at 2-yr schools<
> http://www.collegefinder.org/what-colleges-accept-ap-credits/>, and these
> days, a few selective schools don't take these AP credits at all<
> http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/education/more-colleges-stop-giving-credit-ap-exams>.
> So important conversations will have to take place with universities who
> currently offer "GIS 101" to get a sense of what type of credit they would
> grant, if any. There will be much scrutiny of the course content and the
> exam itself by lots of departments.  Articulation issues about GIS credits
> between 2-yr colleges and 4-yr colleges is already challenging, and this
> will be so too.
>
> Just a few thoughts to keep in mind as the discussions continue. The
> authoring team will have its work cut out for them with this exciting and
> worthy opportunity.
>
> Best,
> Diana
>
> p.s.  I share these perspectives based on my own knowledge: my own 3
> teenage & young adult children have collectively taken almost 20 AP classes
> since 2008; I've been teaching intro GIS to non-geographers for almost 20
> years; I have run GIS workshops for middle- and high-school teachers in
> their own computer labs before; I designed and taught in the University of
> Redland's Spatial Literacy for Educators<
> http://www.redlands.edu/academics/school-of-education/10237.aspx#.VX8Bx_lViko>
> program (currently on hiatus); and I also taught in Elmhurst College's
> program to provide PD to people teaching AP Human Geog<
> http://www.elmhurst.edu/admission/school_for_professional_studies/certificate_programs/ap_human_geography>.
> I am a regular user of both proprietary and FOSS programs, and I trust the
> authoring team will be taking these kind of issues into account as it makes
> recommendations for the course design.  This email message contains my own
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> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Robinson
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:28 AM
> To: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
> apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
>
>
> I'm sure you've seen this stuff before, but for others watching this
> thread, a lot of ground is already covered by the existing GIS&T body of
> knowledge, which is currently under revision to provide new foci around web
> mapping, dealing with big data, etc... The pre-revision BoK is still highly
> useful for course development, in my opinion:
> http://www.aag.org/galleries/publications-files/GIST_Body_of_Knowledge.pdf
>
> Here's an interesting network viz of the BoK, too:
> http://carto.byu.edu/bokviswiki/
>
> Another source of learning objectives in GIS&T is the Geospatial
> Technology Competency Model, which has also been recently revised (Tiers 4
> and 5 are most relevant for this discussion, I think):
> http://www.careeronestop.org/competencymodel/competency-models/geospatial-technology.aspx
>
> I know Sterling Quinn struggled with this notion when developing his new
> course for us on Open Web Mapping. We worked hard to try and sort out
> objectives around learning design patterns while making use of open source
> tools, anticipating that while the individual tools may change over time,
> the fundamental need will probably still be there to understand how to use
> libraries to create web map tiles/vectors, do spatial computing on the
> server-side, and make the leap from desktop GIS into layers that will work
> for web mapping.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Anthony
>
>
> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> [mailto:
> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Charles Schweik
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:09 AM
> To: Cameron Shorter
> Cc: ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please
> apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015
>
> +1...
>
> I am starting to develop a web-GIS class with some colleagues and it is my
> hope that we can separate out conceptual/theoretical from
> technology-explicit content. It is interesting to try and thing of what the
> pure learning objectives are in this area. If anyone has ideas on this let
> me know off-thread...
>
> Perhaps obvious, but the separation of conceptual and tech training
> examples s is important for OSGeo too, for, for example, there are multiple
> desktop packages.
>
> Cheers,
> Charlie
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On 13/06/2015 1:14 am, Anthony Robinson wrote:
> So what I mean is that the
> learning objectives should be pure learning objectives. For example:
>
> YES to "Students should be able to explain projections and choose an
> appropriate one for making a thematic map."
>
> NO to "Students should be able to explain projections and choose an
> appropriate one for making a thematic map using QGIS (or ArcGIS Online, or
> whatever)."
>
> +1 to this explanation Anthony.
>
> Once learning objectives have been created, it will make it much easier to
> develop relevant training courses for specific products, which can
> reference back to the training objectives.
>
> And if the development of base course material is set up along similar
> collaborative principles to Open Source development, then the relatively
> high effort of maintaining training material could be absorbed by the
> product's community (probably through a combination of developers, users
> and trainers).
>
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