[OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

Stephen Woodbridge woodbri at swoodbridge.com
Thu Mar 5 06:31:45 PST 2015


I think this type of system makes a lot of sense especially if you tie 
the achievement of stars to completing the various requirements of 
incubation and graduation.

-Steve

On 3/5/2015 6:18 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
> Bart,
>
> that needs to be discussed but as example: yes, 1 star for current labs,
> 4 stars for current incubated projects
>
>
>
> čt 5. 3. 2015 v 12:16 odesílatel Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> napsal:
>
>     Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So
>     1 star for existing labs projects for instance?
>
>     Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?
>
>     Best regards,
>     Bart
>
>>     On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:51, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
>>     <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>     I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through
>>     incubation and the projects that still have to incubate at the
>>     same level. But that’s my opinion only.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Bart
>>
>>>     On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:18, Jachym Cepicky
>>>     <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Guys,
>>>
>>>     I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like
>>>     to get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve
>>>     for both - today's projects and labs together under one hat.
>>>
>>>     Or anybody thinks completely different?
>>>
>>>     Just my $.02
>>>     J
>>>
>>>     čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand
>>>     <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>     <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> napsal:
>>>
>>>         Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for
>>>         this.
>>>
>>>         Vaclav - Is this ok for you?
>>>
>>>         Suchith
>>>         __________________________________________
>>>         From: Bart van den Eijnden [bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>         <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>]
>>>         Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:34 AM
>>>         To: Vaclav Petras
>>>         Cc: Suchith Anand; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>         <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>         Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>
>>>         I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.
>>>
>>>         What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.
>>>
>>>         http://incubator.apache.org <http://incubator.apache.org/>
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Bart
>>>
>>>         On 04 Mar 2015, at 23:25, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand
>>>         <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.__uk
>>>         <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at __nottingham.ac.uk
>>>         <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>>>         Thanks Jeff.
>>>
>>>         Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing
>>>         on this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this
>>>         might be a good opportunity  to modify the Incubation's
>>>         "labs" term, to something like "Community Projects" to avoid
>>>         confusion if that is acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others.
>>>         Many thanks.
>>>
>>>         Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a
>>>         name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one
>>>         way or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.
>>>
>>>         Vaclav
>>>
>>>         Suchith
>>>
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>>>         <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>>         McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
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>>>         Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>
>>>         (we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has
>>>         been an
>>>         issue and discussed[1])
>>>
>>>         Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
>>>         education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good
>>>         time to
>>>         modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
>>>         Projects".
>>>
>>>         [1]
>>>         http://lists.osgeo.org/__pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-__June/000134.html
>>>         <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-June/000134.html>
>>>
>>>         -jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>         > Vaclav,
>>>         >
>>>         > Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake
>>>         that i did not think on this  when we started the ICA-OSGeo
>>>         Labs initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).
>>>         >
>>>         > In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer
>>>         to infrastructure/people/__facilities for a particular
>>>         subject. For example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we
>>>         wanted to make sure there is a dedicated Open Source
>>>         Geospatial Lab in universities worldwide  (which includes
>>>         bringing together people from various disciplines,
>>>         infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities to make
>>>         this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same
>>>         terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the
>>>         university environment to get academics start the initiative
>>>         in their respective universities (also it is easier for them
>>>         to convince their higher management on a structure that is
>>>         known to them than reinvent a new term for this) .
>>>         >
>>>         > So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
>>>         "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system
>>>         for the incubation as then there is no confusion in the
>>>         future. Many thanks for your consideration.
>>>         >
>>>         > Best wishes,
>>>         >
>>>         > Suchith
>>>         >
>>>         > __________________________________________
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>>>         <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of
>>>         Jachym Cepicky [jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.__com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>]
>>>         > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:27 AM
>>>         > To: Vaclav Petras
>>>         > Cc: OSGeo Discussions; incubator at lists.osgeo.org
>>>         <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org><__mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>         <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>         > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>         >
>>>         > Vašku,
>>>         >
>>>         > just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative
>>>         "OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.
>>>         >
>>>         > My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs"
>>>         and "projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and
>>>         metioned star (or similar) rating system.
>>>         >
>>>         > Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would
>>>         make it (or similar)
>>>         >
>>>         > Jachym
>>>         >
>>>         > po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras
>>>         <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>><mailto:we__nzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:wenz__eslaus at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>>> napsal:
>>>         >
>>>         > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>         <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.__com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>><mailto:jachym.cepicky at __gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><mailto:jachym.__cepicky at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>         > former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten
>>>         in past, but you can find more at
>>>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs
>>>         <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs>)
>>>         >
>>>         > Hi Jachym,
>>>         >
>>>         > do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name
>>>         "OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also
>>>         ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo Research and Educational laboratories which
>>>         might be often shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer
>>>         OSGeoRELs for writing. The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs.
>>>         Put perhaps it is not such an issue since the term "Geo for
>>>         All" (http://www.geoforall.org/) is now used more and more
>>>         (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs in the title element).
>>>         >
>>>         > Thanks for taking this into consideration,
>>>         > Vaclav
>>>         >
>>>         >
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