[OSGeo-Discuss] Gentle reminder reg: Project selection on the new website draft

Wed Aug 16 06:10:04 PDT 2017

Marc
I agree, great and huge work was done.
Maybe a freezing period before of any public release/presentation would be
good?

We're not in a hurry...
With more time review and discussion can run smoothly?

Also, We're in the middle of the holiday season and also vacation time is
limited :-) to answer and check contents...

Great work done

Maxi

Best
Maxi

Il 16 ago 2017 2:42 PM, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> Dear all,
>
> I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the
> brink of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again.
>
> Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please
> be it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand.
> The site is still in full progress,  if one looks behind the scenes; there
> is a really massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey
> experience is enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress
> and ..... the FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too.
>
> It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding
> projects and policy related issues here.
> Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various
> occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and
> actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of
> volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still
> iterations to be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary,
> unparalleled in recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order.
>
> By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license.
> That has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a
> later date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects
> can be done in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy
> grail.
>
> And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer
> hours in a volunteer day.
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
> Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli <
> maria.brovelli at polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
>
> I agree completely with Helena. It has to be fixed with the highest
> priority.
>
> Have a good day,
>
> Maria
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> *Da:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Helena
> Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu>
> *Inviato:* mercoledì 16 agosto 2017 13:29
> *A:* Paulo van Breugel
> *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions; Helmut Kudrnovsky
> *Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft
>
> Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be
> fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so
> much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just
> because we would be perceived  as providing advertising platform for
> projects which are not really free and open source (I guess we will hear
> more about this from Stallman tomorrow).
>
> Helena
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Paulo van Breugel <p.vanbreugel at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 8/16/17 9:32 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>
>> We could ask the OSGeo live project what procedure they use, at the
>> moment we have asked on the discuss at osgeo.org mailing list for open
>> source projects to fill in a google form so we would have content to try
>> out the website with.
>>
>> There is a very clear distinguishing of OSGeo projects on the website:
>>
>> a) Sort order is OSGeo projects > OSGeo Community > Other
>> b) Only OSGeo projects are available from the menu directly,
>> c) When listed OSGeo Projects, and OSGeo Community projects are badged
>> with the appropriate logo
>>
>> When I use the link http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly, I
>> am seeing the page with all projects, with projects in what seems to be
>> random order (and with some of the OSGEO projects, like GRASS, on the last
>> page). Only when I click on 'projects' in the menu am I presented with the
>> projects grouped in Osgeo projects, osgeo community, others. Wouldn't it be
>> preferable to use that page as landing page when using the link
>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly?
>>
>>
>>
>> This is going to be an interesting week collecting feedback when lots of
>> the website is not working as designed quite yet (examples tagging and
>> sorting). To be fair the vast majority of project descriptions were entered
>> last weekend so this is our first chance to try things out with actual
>> content :)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 16 August 2017 at 02:36, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 um 06:28 Uhr
>>> >Von: "Jody Garnett"
>>> >Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft
>>> >
>>> >Not sure it is much of an explanation - our vision as a group is to
>>> empower everyone with geospatial - and there is a lot of open source
>>> >spatial to promote.
>>> >
>>> >By the same vision live.osgeo.org[http://live.osgeo.org] includes all
>>> kinds of projects :)
>>> >
>>> >The key idea is to help people new to our world to go through the
>>> choose a project pages and discover projects that meet their needs.
>>> >
>>> >The website is a beta, we now have enough projects to test out these
>>> ideas and see what issues we can find.  There is a meeting tomorrow >with
>>> the vendor that should be productive (a hands on training session[
>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org
>>> >/wiki/FOSS4G_2017_Code_Sprint#Website_Training] for any one attending
>>> foss4g).
>>>
>>> I'm following the new website and branding process a little bit by the
>>> mailing lists.
>>>
>>> is there anywhere a documented discussion or a documented and approved
>>> decision about how the project selection to be listed on the OSGeo website
>>> is done? I can't find anyone.
>>>
>>> To be inclusive is one side; not to distinguish OSGeo projects from
>>> other software projects from other initatives (e.g. locationtech) or GIS
>>> vendors without any supplement words in the OSGeo website, I'm feeling
>>> unconformable with it.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Helmut
>>>
>>> OSGeo charter member
>>>
>>
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