[OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community

[Jeffrey Johnson]

Please keep asking questions. It's healthy and how we (try to) arrive at
consensus.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 17:13 Helmut Kudrnovsky <hellik at web.de> wrote:

> Dear Venka, Dear Helena, Dear Marc, Dear OSGeo Community,
>
> I'm some kind of surprised about the reactions and long threads about my
> question yesterday.
>
> Just back from a long walk along a nice alpine river where I had time to
> contemplate about it. Therefore it will be a personal and some kind of
> philosophical note.
>
> In my personal, cultural and scientific background I was educated that
> asking questions isn't anything bad.
>
> * Asking questions regarding things I'm interested in, to learn more about
> it ...
> * Asking questions regarding things I'm interested in, I'm involved, and
> where I have some kind of responsibility, to take care that it evolves in a
> sustainable way ...
>
> citing [1]:
>
> "The third category is Charter Member. Individuals in this category have
> the same rights as the above Member category, but with two important
> differences. Firstly, individuals in this category are not self-selected,
> but rather must be voted into this category by the other Charter Members.
> Secondly, individuals in this category have the right to vote in elections
> for other Charter Members, and for Board Members.
>
>     These two factors are intended to maintain the integrity of the
> Foundation election processes -- and by extension the integrity of the
> Foundation itself. We use the term "Charter" Member to explicitly indicate
> that these members are responsible for upholding the "charter" of the
> Foundation."
>
> As I'm honoured to be elected an OSGeo charter member, this is a high
> motivation for me to volunteer e.g. this year as OSGeo GSoC admin, to have
> fun within the GRASS community and to promote OSGeo and free and open
> source GIS whenever I have a chance to do so... and from time to time it
> encourages me to ask questions about OSGeo's evolution. So here we are now
> ...
>
> Community and communication .... both have the same latin word stem:
> communis.
>
> I like OSGeo's do-ocracy :-) ... but also I think it's now time to
> rephrase the open source mantra to "communicate often, communicate early"
> :-) ... that OSGeo is able to evolve in a sustainable way!
>
> Kind regards
> Helmut
>
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/Membership
>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. August 2017 um 21:15 Uhr
> Von: "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com>
> An: "Sandro Santilli" <strk at kbt.io>
> Cc: "Helmut Kudrnovsky" <hellik at web.de>, "OSGeo Discussions" <
> discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> Betreff: Re: Non-precise framing can hurt the community
> @Helmut et all,
>
> Thanks for another opportunity to give the community more insights in what
> LocationTech (the Eclipse Industry Working Group for spatially aware
> software) entails and how it relates to OSGeo!
>
> We help co-develop and co-promote OSGeo projects in general (including
> GPL-projects!) through
> - sponsoring codesprints (e.g. Here in Boston tomorrow) and
> - co-organising events (e.g. codesprints and Foss4g North Amerika)
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
> > Op 18 aug. 2017 om 12:53 heeft Marc Vloemans <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com>
> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Dear Sandro,
> >
> > We (Eclipse Foundation -LocationTech) are 'not against it' ! I repeat;
> not against........did I mention 'not'?
> >
> > GPL is approved by OSI, just like the EPL. We are on the same team. The
> word 'against' suggests we are at odds with each other over this. Which we
> are not, never have been and never will be.
> >
> > Our members (businesses, academia, NGO's) work with/on projects that
> incorporate various licenses. Individual choices depend on 'the right tools
> for the job'. Developers work on projects and in communities that encompass
> a wide spectrum of licenses.
> > End-users (the ones that fund so many of open spatial projects)
> determine and decide which tools will suit their purposes. And they love
> our community's versatility to meet their demands. Thus furthering the
> overall success of open spatial IT in the world.
> > The present full spectrum of projects provides a compelling,
> comprehensive storyline as is demonstrated by an increasing number of
> implementations. Worldwide, across industry verticals, profits,
> non-profits, etc etc.
> >
> > Hope this clarifies and let's together move forward!
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Marc Vloemans
> >
> >
> >>> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 11:25 heeft Sandro Santilli <strk at kbt.io> het
> volgende geschreven:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
> >>
> >> This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
> >> against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)
> >>
> >> --strk;
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