[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

Wed Oct 18 10:23:52 PDT 2017

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz <jsanz at osgeo.org> wrote:
> HI Eli,
>
> If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned from
> his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
> elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
> apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.

Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
Board."

Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?

The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
"need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
it.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Venka, all,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
>> > Hi Venka,
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>> > <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>> >
>> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>> >>
>> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> their last meeting,
>> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
>> >> not
>> >> arise
>> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>> >
>> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
>> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
>> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
>> > unknown.
>>
>> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
>> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> >> process.
>> >
>> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
>> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>> >
>>
>> Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>> > Best regards, Eli
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >>
>> >> Venka
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>> >>
>> >> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and
>> >> me.
>> >> --
>> >> Jorge Sanz
>> >> https://jorgesanz.net
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>> >>
>> >> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam" <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> escribió:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Eli,
>> >> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>> >>
>> >> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>> >>
>> >> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
>> >> for pointing it out to me.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>> >>
>> >> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>> >>
>> >> Was the cro at osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
>> >> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
>> >> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> their last meeting,
>> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards, Eli
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gérald Fenoy
>> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>> >>
>> >> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Nicolas,
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bozon at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>> >>
>> >> Directors
>> >>
>> >> election.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> >> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> >> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> >> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>> >>
>> >> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> >> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
>> >>
>> >> contributions
>> >>
>> >> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
>> >>
>> >> long
>> >>
>> >> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
>> >>
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
>> >>
>> >> may
>> >>
>> >> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
>> >>
>> >> read
>> >>
>> >> before you vote.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
>> >>
>> >> understanding of
>> >>
>> >> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
>> >>
>> >> Experienced
>> >>
>> >> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
>> >>
>> >> and
>> >>
>> >> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent
>> >>
>> >> globally.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>> >> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>> >> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Nicolas Bozon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
>> >>
>> >> nomination
>> >>
>> >> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to
>> >>
>> >> confirm to
>> >>
>> >> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page
>> >>
>> >> still
>> >>
>> >> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>> >> nomination process in this special case.
>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
>> >> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
>> >> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
>> >> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
>> >> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
>> >> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
>> >> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
>> >> CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
>> >> CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
>> >> someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
>> >> process and raise these issues.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards, Eli
>> >>
>> >>
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