[OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
Sun Oct 22 05:42:57 PDT 2017

Ravi, but people from most of the world can not effort flight  ticket to
say USA and week hostel - deal with it.

I keep always asking, "what can I do for open source 4 geospatial" instead
of "what can foss4g do for me?".

make local foss4g events, make hackathons, try to get founds, so you bring
the "big names" to you - it might be cheaper then trying to bring all your
friends to foss4g-global

it was proved, that the costs are rather constant. for the global event,
the rule is (ir it was) ever 3rd year, osgeo does not expect much of the
revenue, we hope the local people from local countries will come, we try to
bring foss4g to them..

costs in USA and Europe are making revenue - and it is good so, imho


so 21. 10. 2017 v 10:59 odesílatel Ravi Kumar <manarajahmundry2015 at gmail.com>

> "the fees are certainly not for normal people from most of the world"..
> This is balm to all those who consider themselves sidelined.
> Much of the world needs Open Source and Open and Free GIS for Transparent
> administration among a multitude of reasons. May be it is time for a course
> correction.
> Ravi
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Guys,
>> the fees are certainly not for normal people from most of the world. Not
>> talking about travel costs.
>> But, as active member of the community, you can get considerable discount
>> (giving workshops, volunteer at sessions, ...).
>> With FOSS4G-Europe, we aim to bring "little FOSS4G" to more people. And
>> it seems to be working.
>> Just 0.02
>> J
>> čt 19. 10. 2017 v 8:44 odesílatel Till Adams <till.adams at fossgis.de>
>> napsal:
>>> Dear list,
>>> I can invite everybody, to follow the RfP process for FOSS4G 2019 [1] -
>>> including the questions to the teams. This will show, that we as CC have
>>> the cost factor always in mind. When discussing about prices, please take
>>> into account, that conference fee normally is 1/3 - 1/5 of the total costs
>>> you have when visiting a FOSS4G.
>>> Also I'd like to invite everybody to make even small donations to the
>>> travel grant programme. We will announce, when the TGP for 2018 is setup.
>>> Cheers, Till
>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2019_Bid_Process
>>> Am 18.10.2017 um 09:30 schrieb Andrea Aime:
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Bruce Bannerman <
>>> bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> When you look at the costs associated with a person attending a typical
>>>> international FOSS4G event, the actual conference fees a small amount of
>>>> the actual cost.
>>>> Consider airfares, transportation, accomodation, meals, lost wages etc.
>>>> There is nothing that an LOC can do about these individual costs.
>>> Ah hem, nothing that the LOC can do once the conference site is chosen,
>>> but something that OSGeo can do when assigning the location and timing.
>>> And I believe that is happening, if I'm not wrong for the first time the
>>> LOC needs to provide expected cost of airfare and accommodation as part
>>> of their proposal, which will make people consider carefully that aspect
>>> too.
>>> Another aspect that was not cited but that I heard in conversations and
>>> believe is important, it's that it is really hard to compress
>>> the cost of a large conference: the LOC needs a place that can host 1000
>>> people, and that can give internet to this many people,
>>> that places forces the catering package on you (I've been told by
>>> several conference chairs there no way to dodge that) and the
>>> two together make up for a large amount of the cost.
>>> So, besides some exceptions (think FOSDEM) it seems the only way to
>>> setup a cheaper conference is to make a smaller
>>> one that can be hosted at a university or in a smaller conference
>>> center. Hence the focus on the local conferences.
>>> I believe the threshold is at around 500 people, larger than that one is
>>> hung on the costly options.
>>> Cheers
>>> Andrea
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