[OSGeo-Discuss] [xbbn] How Do We Reboot a Spirit of Cooperation & Collaboration? A Little Help, Please!
Miles Fidelman
mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Mon Feb 10 12:32:47 PST 2025
Well, that's the problem - folks are organizing around political
matters, to rally, to protest - but not to act.
Seems to me we need something more like the green committees that
cropped up after Earth Day - and proceeded to start cleaning up rivers,
launch recycling problems. Perhaps a coalition of organizations - like
the ways VOADs organize service organizations to respond to disasters,
or United Ways help Habitat for Humanity put together housing builds -
or Live Aid & Farm Aid. Hence the notion of a "Civic Internet" that
brings lots of different folks together to collaborate.
In a sense, the way the Internet Flag Day focused the attention of lots
of different groups, and types of groups, on getting everthing ready for
the cutover.
In a sense, the challenge seems to be one of how do we get back to
working together, to mutual benefit - rather than every individual &
organization trying to be the one ring to rule them all.
A lot of us lived through the Internet - from Licklider's original memo
to today's hive of minds. We found a way to work together to wire the
world. What can we learn from the process? How can we rekindle the
spirit of collaboration?
Miles
Franklin, Dan wrote:
>
> There is a lot of organizing happening.
>
> Are you aware of "50501" - the big rallies at the capitals of all 50
> states? Or the work of reconstituted Indivisible chapters (a new one
> just formed for Melrose and Wakefield)? These chapters meet in person
> or on Zoom to plan out protests and mass calls to Congress. The many
> guides to protesting, and discussions of what matters? The rally on
> Valentine's Day on the Boston Common?
>
> Or the fact that the Capital switchboards are getting so many calls
> that they're overloaded?
>
> People are acting and organizing. Find your local Indivisible chapter,
> or start one if there isn't one already.
>
> Dan Franklin
>
> On 2/9/25 12:36, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> /Turning and turning in the widening gyre /
>>
>> /Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;/
>>
>> /Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,/
>>
>> /The best lack all conviction, while the worst /
>>
>> /Are full of passionate intensity./ ... Yeats
>>
>> It strikes me that we - We The People, Americans, Humanity - need an
>> Attitude Adjustment.We need to relearn how to think & work together
>> for mutual support & benefit. My best efforts have been to little
>> effect. I'd welcome some suggestions, some support, some
>> participation.Herding cats is one thing, but one can only tilt at
>> windmills for so long.
>>
>> We've networked ourselves together. 6 Billion of us have the power
>> to be anywhere & everywhere, all at once. To think & work together
>> on a global scale. To think globally focus our resources to act
>> locally. So what do we do? We share cat pictures, watch porn, flood
>> the world with spam, and troll each other with political polemics.
>> We've become the Borg, we're living in the Matrix, and 3-D Printing
>> Westworld around us. Our planet is dying, our infrastructure is
>> crumbling, monsters rise from the id of our collective consciousness,
>> and we hand the nuclear codes to a "Reality" TV star, with a penchant
>> for firing people & stirring up WWE style mayhem.
>>
>> Is there some way back to /Life Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness, E
>> Pluribus Unum, Truth/ /Justice & the American Way? /Or forward to
>> /Prosperity & Long Life/ in /Infinite Diversity in/ /Infinite
>> Combination, Being All that We Can Be, Being Excellent to Each Other
>> & Partying / /On? /
>>
>> ----
>>
>> At least some of us, here, were involved w/ FreeNets and the early
>> days of /Community Memory,/ bulletin boards, FidoNet, community
>> networks - attempts to build an /American Public Telecommunications
>> Network/ of FreeNets, and an /Association for Community Media/ for
>> cable access channels. All of that was lost when FaceBook & Social
>> Media & NextDoor & local websites hosted by big ate the world.
>>
>> My work at the /Center for Civic Networking -/ and now with
>> /Civic.Net/ and /ThisOldNeighborhood.Net /- is an attempt to recreate
>> a network of public spaces on the Internet - an Internet or Syndicate
>> of Neighborhood Networks & Civic Forums - but there are not a lot of
>> Neighborhood Networks or Civic Forums to integrate.
>>
>> It seems like folks don't /want/ to talk with each other anymore.
>> The polarizers, and propagandists, and market segmentationists have
>> done their work all too well. People don't come to town meeting or
>> condo meetings. Everyone wants to be a rockstar and a solopreneur,
>> rather than part of a team, or a community. Folks flock to the
>> latest personality or fad, a virtual event with a politician or media
>> personality - but actually sit down to think and work together, to
>> mutual benefit - not so much. Folks will march for this cause or
>> that, work for politicians, buy snake-oil. Some will go to Cons and
>> LARPs, and build a city in the dessert at Burning Man; some will
>> show up for Hackathons, Service Days, /Habitat-for-Humanity/ Builds,
>> rush off to map crises or jump into fires, but collaborate - think &
>> plan & work together for mutual support & benefit - not so much.
>> We're oh so much better at shouting slogans at each other - than at
>> looking for ways we can work together to mutual benefit.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> I've been doing my damndest to recruit volunteers to organize local
>> /civic networks/ and /community forums/- to use platforms they
>> already have to bring people together (the way WBUR in Boston has
>> organized /CitySpace/ as a venue for events & programs that bring
>> people together. Or the Whole Earth Catalog & the WELL, back in the
>> day. Or what /MainVest /tried to do as a crowdsourcing vehicle for
>> main street businesses - until their bank failed).
>>
>> I haven't been getting a lot of traction. I've got a bunch of
>> followers on /LinkedIn, /a bunch of (mostly non-paying) subscribers
>> to my blogs - but practically /nobody speaks up /- either to talk
>> about what they're doing and seeking collaboration for, or even to
>> ask folks to join with them to work on local pressing common
>> problems. And all the media types who HAVE large audiences, are
>> moving to Substack, spouting the same-old same-old, and inviting
>> people to attend their lectures, webinars, have coffee with them,
>> send them money - but offering nothing to help people work with each
>> other. All talk, no action.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> It seems like the old line is true - you can lead folks to water, but
>> you can't make them drink.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the /Spirit of America?/ What will it take to
>> wake people up? To motivate people to respond to a clear & present
>> danger the way they did following the first /Earth Day? /
>>
>> Please... Speak up. With serious suggestions & proposals. Save the
>> pontification for other threads.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Miles
>>
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
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In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
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