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<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Frans Thamura)<br> 2. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Jacolin Yves)<br> 3. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of
<br> attention (Luca Casagrande)<br> 4. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of<br> attention (Venkatesh Raghavan)<br> 5. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education<br> (Venkatesh Raghavan)
<br> 6. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of<br> attention (Jachym Cepicky)<br> 7. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education<br> (Venkatesh Raghavan)<br> 8. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of
<br> attention (Venkatesh Raghavan)<br> 9. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of<br> attention (Luca Casagrande)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------
<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:33:19 +0700<br>From: "Frans Thamura" <<a href="mailto:frans@intercitra.com">frans@intercitra.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
<br> education<br>To: "OSGeo Discussions" <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:3a71add70710252333p242b479ap1071a3ea03e6f7f9@mail.gmail.com">
3a71add70710252333p242b479ap1071a3ea03e6f7f9@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On 10/26/07, Gavin Fleming <<a href="mailto:GavinF@mintek.co.za">GavinF@mintek.co.za</a>> wrote:
<br>> While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like<br>> to put a niche request / challenge to the community.<br>><br><br>Gavin,<br><br>our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for the detail
<br><br>1. we just need Ubuntu in client<br>2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and<br>put in the centralized server<br>3. start training<br><br>may be can help<br><br><br>------------------------------
<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:54:17 +0200<br>From: Jacolin Yves <<a href="mailto:yjacolin@free.fr">yjacolin@free.fr</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in<br> education
<br>To: <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>Cc: Gavin Fleming <<a href="mailto:GavinF@mintek.co.za">GavinF@mintek.co.za</a>>, <a href="mailto:edu_discuss@lists.osgeo.org">edu_discuss@lists.osgeo.org
</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200710260954.17571.yjacolin@free.fr">200710260954.17571.yjacolin@free.fr</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Gaving,<br><br>The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone
<br>documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone (french)<br>is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we will use it.<br><br>Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi LiveCD, some
<br>LiveUsb, etc.<br><br>It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the ability to<br>change data, documentation and langage, i.e. I18n of the liveCD, easily.<br><br>Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to produce data
<br>and documentation for this liveCD ;)<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Y.<br>Le Friday 26 October 2007 08:29:52 Gavin Fleming, vous avez écrit:<br>> While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like<br>
> to put a niche request / challenge to the community.<br>><br>> High schools in South Africa and elsewhere need a FOSS alternative to<br>> use and teach GIS, which is a compulsory part of the syllabus from this
<br>> year. FOSS GIS at present is too inaccessible. My challenge is to have a<br>> packaged CD for Ubuntu to launch at FOSS4G2008 in Cape Town. This CD (or<br>> DVD) would have:<br>><br>> -one-click installation for Linux, Windows or Mac.
<br>> -Integrated software stack so teachers and learners have to launch a<br>> minimal number of applications<br>> -Simplified and customised GUIs to lower the entry threshold.<br>> -for teachers to teach curriculum requirements of GIS
<br>> -for teachers to use GIS to teach geography and other subjects<br>> -for learners to use for hands-on work<br>> -Free, integrated global and local data package<br>> -excellent documentation<br>
> -framework for local contributors to structure and contribute exercises,<br>> lessons, etc.<br>> -central website for resources<br>> -possible advanced options for network deployment, more sophisticated<br>> users, 'computer studies' learners (
i.e. developers), school web map<br>> services, etc.<br>><br>> Any takers?<br>><br>><br>> Gavin<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">
discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan<br>> Sent: 26 October 2007 05:19 AM<br>> To: OSGeo Discussions
<br>> Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat<br>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has<br>> gaineda lot of attention<br>><br>> Hi Hendra,<br>><br>> We are starting to look into packaging
<br>> OSGeo software stack for Ubuntu using<br>> the AptonCD packaging tool (<a href="http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/">http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/</a>).<br>><br>> We are in the process of learning to package
<br>> software for Unbuntu.<br>><br>> If any others are interested in working on this,<br>> we would be glad to join.<br>><br>> Kind regards<br>><br>> Venka<br>><br>> ..<br>><br>> >> Oops, looks like I've forgotten the urls =]
<br>> >><br>> >> Spatially Adjusted (James Fee):<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2007/10/22/create-gis-workstation-using">http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2007/10/22/create-gis-workstation-using
</a><br>> -ubuntu-and-open-source-gis-software<br>><br>> >> Matt Perry: <a href="http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10">http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10</a><br>> >><br>> >> And: BR-Linux =]
<br>><br>> <a href="http://br-linux.org/linux/configurando-um-ambiente-de-sistema-de-informa">http://br-linux.org/linux/configurando-um-ambiente-de-sistema-de-informa</a><br>> cao-geografica-com-o-ubuntu<br>> _______________________________________________
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<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:56:41 +0200<br>From: Luca Casagrande <<a href="mailto:luca.casagrande@gmail.com">luca.casagrande@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has
<br> gained a lot of attention<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <<a href="mailto:sarawut.ait@gmail.com">sarawut.ait@gmail.com
</a>><br>Message-ID: <1193385402.6201.12.camel@linux-mac><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>Hello everybody.<br><br>What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?<br><br>Bye<br><br>
Luca<br><br>Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 13.45 +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan ha<br>scritto:<br>> Hi Mateusz,<br>><br>> Mateusz Loskot wrote:<br>> ..<br>> ><br>> > Perhaps, it's well-known already, but there are two maintainers groups
<br>> > working on GIS packages for Debian and Ubuntu:<br>> ><br>> > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS</a><br>> ><br>> > <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis">
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis</a><br><br>--<br>"Chiunque può simpatizzare col dolore di un amico, ma solo un animo nobile<br>riesce a simpatizzare col successo di un amico." Oscar Wilde<br><br>Home Page: <a href="http://www.ominiverdi.org">
http://www.ominiverdi.org</a><br>Socio GFOSS "Geospatial Free and Open Source Software" <a href="http://www.gfoss.it">http://www.gfoss.it</a><br>Jabber: <a href="mailto:casagrande@jabber.linux.it">casagrande@jabber.linux.it
</a><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:03:31 +0900<br>From: Venkatesh Raghavan <<a href="mailto:raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>
><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has<br> gained a lot of attention<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <<a href="mailto:sarawut.ait@gmail.com">sarawut.ait@gmail.com</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:47219F53.7070103@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">47219F53.7070103@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
<br><br>Hi Luca,<br><br>Luca Casagrande wrote:<br>> Hello everybody.<br>><br>> What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?<br><br>Great idea. I am all for it.<br><br>Venka<br><br><br>------------------------------
<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:10:03 +0900<br>From: Venkatesh Raghavan <<a href="mailto:raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in
<br> education<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4721A0DB.1000007@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">4721A0DB.1000007@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp
</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Hi Frans,<br><br>Frans Thamura wrote:<br>...<br>> Gavin,<br>><br>> our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for
<br>> the detail<br>><br>> 1. we just need Ubuntu in client 2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we<br>> here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and put in the centralized server 3.<br>> start training<br><br>That would still require to network access.
<br>In the trainings that we give the particpants<br>a set of CD will have the OS and OSGeo stack<br>in them. The idea being that once the trainee<br>returns home, he can make copies of CD and<br>make use of the tools even if he/she does not
<br>have access to internet or the bandwidth's are<br>narrow. Right now we do the packaging on Mandriva<br>Linux, but are thinking of moving to Unbuntu.<br><br>We prefer to use CD instead of DVD because many<br>of the particpants do not have access to DVD reader in
<br>their home countries.<br><br>Venka<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:09:09 +0200<br>From: Jachym Cepicky <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com
</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has<br> gained a lot of attention<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
<br>Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <<a href="mailto:sarawut.ait@gmail.com">sarawut.ait@gmail.com</a>><br>Message-ID: <1193389749.7094.16.camel@kocour><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>hi,<br>
<br>the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -<br>the people always do.<br><br>imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,<br>you must not ignore other distributions.
<br><br>why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many<br>thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian<br>maintainer? I can not of course speak for him.<br><br>well, just few thoughts of mine
<br><br>Jachym<br><br><br>Venkatesh Raghavan pÃÅ¡e v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900:<br>> Hi Luca,<br>><br>> Luca Casagrande wrote:<br>> > Hello everybody.<br>> ><br>> > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
<br>><br>> Great idea. I am all for it.<br>><br>> Venka<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Discuss mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in<br> education<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Cc: 'Fenoy Gerald' <<a href="mailto:gerald@geolabs.fr">
gerald@geolabs.fr</a>>, <a href="mailto:edu_discuss@lists.osgeo.org">edu_discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4721AFD0.1000508@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">4721AFD0.1000508@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>>
<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Jacolin Yves wrote:<br>...<br>> The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone<br>> documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone
<br>> (french) is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we<br>> will use it.<br><br>I think it is Gerald Fenoy who is working on Geolive<br><a href="http://www.djayux.net/geolive/wiki/Downloads">http://www.djayux.net/geolive/wiki/Downloads
</a><br><br>> Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi<br>> LiveCD, some LiveUsb, etc.<br><br>Guess there must be some limitation on how much of<br>the OSGeo stack we could pack in one LiveCD. I also
<br>read about ways of installing from LiveCD to HDD.<br>I haven't used LiveCD much for training yet.<br><br>> It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the<br>> ability to change data, documentation and langage,
i.e. I18n of the<br>> liveCD, easily.<br><br>Heard that the Japanese version of Ominiverdi LiveCD<br>is expected to be out soon.<br><br>><br>> Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to<br>> produce data and documentation for this liveCD ;)
<br><br>Sounds good.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Venka<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:20 +0900<br>From: Venkatesh Raghavan <<a href="mailto:raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">
raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has<br> gained a lot of attention<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">
discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4721B2BC.5040101@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp">4721B2BC.5040101@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br><br>Hi Jachym and all,
<br><br>Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>...<br>> the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -<br>> the people always do.<br><br>Very true.<br><br>> imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,
<br>> you must not ignore other distributions.<br><br>True, one must not ignore other distributions. our group hopes to<br>continue whatever little that we can do on the Mandriva distribution.<br><br>> why should e.g
. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many<br>> thanks!) work under osgeo head,<br><br>Why not? my sincere thanks to Frankie too.<br><br>> if he did so till now as official Debian<br>> maintainer? I can not of course speak for him.
<br><br>Can't speak for him either.<br><br>> well, just few thoughts of mine<br><br>Regards<br><br>Venka<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:27:35 +0200<br>From: Luca Casagrande <
<a href="mailto:luca.casagrande@gmail.com">luca.casagrande@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has<br> gained a lot of attention<br>To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">
discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <1193390855.6201.23.camel@linux-mac><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>Hi Jachym,<br><br>your thoughts are right..before the repository, we need to define *the*
<br>osgeo distribution.<br>For example, I am working on the Gentoo-GIS repository and this could<br>also be taken in consideration.<br>My sentence was referred to the Ubuntu topic, and related to the fact<br>that right now you are the only one that manage the Ubuntu software
<br>repository and probably an hand would be useful.<br><br>Bye<br><br>Luca<br><br>Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 11.09 +0200, Jachym Cepicky ha scritto:<br>> hi,<br>><br>> the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages -
<br>> the people always do.<br>><br>> imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution,<br>> you must not ignore other distributions.<br>><br>> why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many
<br>> thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian<br>> maintainer? I can not of course speak for him.<br>><br>> well, just few thoughts of mine<br>><br>> Jachym<br>><br>>
<br>> Venkatesh Raghavan pÃÅ¡e v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900:<br>> > Hi Luca,<br>> ><br>> > Luca Casagrande wrote:<br>> > > Hello everybody.<br>> > ><br>> > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO?
<br>> ><br>> > Great idea. I am all for it.<br>> ><br>> > Venka<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">
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