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Thanks all for the feedback.<br>
One thing that you have made me realise is that the text was
potentially unclear as to whether a person is eligible as a
recognised community leader if they previously, but not currently
hold a role as a PSC member (or similar). The intent is they should
be eligible.<br>
<br>
Re: "3 charter members" to vote. This was introduced to make it
harder to rig the system. I expect that most established OSGeo
communities will have 3 charter members. If not, people can still
apply for charter member status under our previous voting process.<br>
I agree that PSC membership for graduated OSGeo projects should
suffice for validating that a candidate has contributed
significantly to OSGeo, and as such should be considered
automatically for OSGeo Charter status.<br>
<b><br>
</b>I've updated text to reflect comments:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process_2014#Positions_for_recognised_OSGeo_Community_Leaders">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process_2014#Positions_for_recognised_OSGeo_Community_Leaders</a><br>
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<i>Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders are defined as people who have
been '''voted''' into a position of authority within official
OSGeo projects and committees. <b>(This may refer to a current or
previously held position).</b></i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Acceptable roles are currently limited to:</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>* Project Steering Committee member of a Graduated OSGeo
Project</i><i><br>
</i><i>* Chair of Official Local Chapter, <b>where the voting
community includes at least '''3''' OSGeo charter members</b></i><i><br>
</i><i>* Chair of an OSGeo committee, <b>where the voting community
includes at least '''3''' OSGeo charter members</b></i><b><i><br>
</i></b><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/06/2014 5:48 am, Alex Mandel
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 06/17/2014 12:22 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I like the idea of the new Charter Membership rules.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Jo Cook <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com"><jocook@astuntechnology.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi List,
Regarding the new proposal for voting in charter members- it's slightly
off topic, but I doubt all existing Local Chapter representatives have been
voted in by at least 3 charter members. That sets the bar quite high for
new chapters as well- under the new regime if they have no existing chapter
members it might not be possible for them to a) elect a chapter
representative and b) get them elected as a charter member. Maybe I've
misunderstood this part of the new rules?
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I think that a) is still possible. The Local Chapter can do what they want
regarding their internal workings. I agree that b) could be impossible in
the scenario you describe.
Local Chapters are approved by the Board including a representative who
then becomes an Officer of OSGeo.[0] Graduated OSGeo projects are approved
by both the Incubation Committee and the Board. I think in these cases
where the Chapter/Project has already been approved by the Board, removing
the requirement "where the voting community includes at least *3* OSGeo
charter members" is reasonable. Jo, do you think that the "where the
voting community includes at least *3* OSGeo charter members"requirement
should be removed for Official Local Chapters and Graduated OSGeo Projects?
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You are right, Local chapter liaisons probably don't need the specific
3. I find this whole thing odd because in California we gave the liaison
position to whoever was willing to do it, not exactly an election...
course we wouldn't want a local chapter to just keep switching liaison
to get more charter members so they have enough vote to get a board
member of their choosing... If we follow the only adding once a year -
it should take too many years for this strategy to be worthwhile. More
below.
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<pre wrap="">You might want to clarify how the Charter Membership is tied to the elected
position. Let's say I volunteer to chair the Web Committee now, then
become a Charter Member, then quit the Web Committee and someone else takes
it over. Am I still a Charter Member? Is the person who takes it over? I
think that Charter Membership is lifetime unless you repeatedly don't vote
or ask to not be a Charter Member, so that might address the first
question. For the second question about the person who takes over
chairing, would it wait until the next Charter membership election for it
to become effective? Same scenario with Local Chapter Representatives.
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It's not tied together. You do not need to be a Charter member to be the
chair or member of a committee. The only time you need Charter
membership is to serve on the Board or vote for the Board or vote for
new Charter members. You are correct once a Charter member you stay one
unless you remove yourself - or as discussed in previous years (I can't
recall if it's a proposal or rule) if you fail to vote often enough.
Charter members are only added once a year, that is unlikely to change.
This ensures that they are added at a somewhat measured pace.
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<pre wrap="">Once these changes are approved, this page should perhaps be updated,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/membership">http://www.osgeo.org/membership</a>
Eli
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Is the board going to vote on this proposal or all charter members?
Thanks,
Alex
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