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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Cameron & all,<br>
<br>
a lot of serious, involved work is going on on this thread;
however, some core issues which I tried to phrase, but Steven
(Feldman) expressed much crisper, still remain unaddressed by the
currently voted proposal:<br>
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<li>Inclusiveness</li>
<li>Democracy</li>
<li>Growth</li>
<li>Openness</li>
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The proposal as it stands is in high danger of establishing a
self-sustaining oligarchy. <br>
<br>
I am concerned that a body that claims to have international
impact (through project branding) high responsibility must be
exercised in terms of transparency, openness, and democratic
principles. <br>
<br>
-Peter<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 06/29/2014 10:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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OSGeo board,<br>
In the interests of making a decision such that Jorge Salinas (our
CRO) can move forward, I propose the following process be followed
for voting new charter members in 2014:<br>
<br>
1. Charter member to nominate potential new charter member(s) (as
before).<br>
<br>
2. Charter members then vote (in/out) nominated charter members.
This will be different to prior years, as we previously voted in a
fixed number of members for a larger selection pool. (eg vote in
20 people from a list of 30). For this year, I propose we have a
"Yes/No" vote. Ie, if we have a list of 30 candidates, we will ask
all charter members to vote Yes or No against each candidate. Each
candidate with greater than 50% of YES votes will be included as
new charter members.<br>
<br>
3. Charter members would be guided to select candidates who fit
the "Positive Attributes for Charter Members" as defined here: <a
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href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes</a><br>
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4. There will be no limit to the number of new charter members who
can be selected. This will require an update of <a
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href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process</a><br>
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5. Note: This vote is being put to the board and not to charter
members as I don't wish to complicate this decision by adding a
2nd (positive) idea for change. We can address getting charter
members to vote on issues as a separate motion.<br>
<br>
Board members, can you please all vote on above:<br>
<br>
+1 Cameron<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/06/2014 9:31 pm, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br>
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Following the community discussion, I further researched OSGeo's
foundation documents, (in retrospect I should have done this
earlier).<br>
<br>
Of particular relevance to current discussion is our ByLaws:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html</a><br>
<i>Section 7.1. Admission of [Charter] Members. An initial group
of up to forty-five (45) persons shall be admitted as the
initial [charter] members of the corporation upon the
affirmative vote of the Board of Directors of the corporation.
Thereafter, to be eligible for [charter] membership, a person
must be nominated by an existing [charter] member of the
corporation pursuant to a written document in such form as
shall be adopted by the Board of Directors from time to time.
The nomination must be included in a notice to the [charter]
members at least ten (10) days in advance of the meeting at
which the [charter] members will vote on the applicant’s
admission. Proposed [charter] members shall be admitted upon
the affirmative vote of the members of the corporation.</i><br>
<br>
This section implies that the proposal below of automatically
accepting "Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders" is
unconstitutional, as charter members need to be voted into the
role by existing charter members.<br>
<br>
It also implies that while a separate paid membership category
could be created, paid members would still need to be voted into
a charter member role by existing charter members.<br>
<br>
The ByLaws don't mention limiting the number of new charter
members. This criteria seems to have been introduced as a
Membership Process by the 26th Board meeting:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process</a><br>
<i>The number of new members will be between 10% and one third
of the existing charter membership count as decided by the
board</i>.<br>
<br>
Such a statement created by the board, could be updated by the
board, and as such the board could agree to accept an unlimited
number of new charter members.<br>
<br>
So I'm now thinking that our election process can be simplified
to:<br>
<br>
1. Charter member to nominate potential new charter member(s)<br>
2. Charter members then vote (in/out) against all nominated
charter members<br>
A suitable criteria for determining whether a nominee qualifies
is listed here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes</a><br>
4. Nominees with a majority of votes are included as new Charter
Members<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/06/2014 9:52 am, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br>
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Within 2 weeks we intend to start our annual process for
selecting new OSGeo charter members.<br>
<br>
In previous years the Charter Member selection process has
been a little contentious. We typically receive numerous
nominations from high caliber members of our community, and
insufficient positions to accept them all. This typically
results in unnecessary disappointment and dissent.<br>
<br>
In response, the OSGeo board has agreed to trial tweaking the
voting process. The aim is to automatically accept recognised
OSGeo community leaders, while continuing with our existing
process which attracts the many valuable community members who
contribute in other ways. Community comments are encouraged,
and will be considered over the next week.<br>
<br>
<b>Design guidelines:</b><br>
<br>
* We want a process which is simple to understand and
implement.<br>
* We want a process which encourages recognised OSGeo
community leaders to become OSGeo charter members, while
continuing to accept members from the many other valuable
OSGeo roles.<br>
* We want a process which is difficult to abuse.<br>
* For the first iteration, we should err on being more
selective in our criteria, with potential widening of
selection criteria in future years.<br>
<br>
<b>Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders</b><b><br>
</b><br>
OSGeo aims to provide OSGeo Charter Membership to all
recognised OSGeo community leaders who are nominated.
Hopefully, sufficient positions are available. If there are
more candidates than available, then membership will be
allocated to the first to be nominated. Remaining nominees
will be automatically offered to go through the standard
voting process.<br>
Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders are defined as people who
have been <b>voted</b> into a position of authority within
official OSGeo projects and committees, where the voting
community includes at least 3 OSGeo charter members.<br>
<br>
Acceptable roles are currently limited to:<br>
* Project Steering Committee member of a Graduated OSGeo
Project<br>
* Chair of Official Local Chapter<br>
* Chair of an OSGeo committee<br>
<br>
The application process for recognised OSGeo Community Leaders
is the same as for other nominees.<br>
<br>
Full text of our processes are at:<br>
* <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process_2014">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process_2014</a><br>
* <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014</a><br>
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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