<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Milo van der Linden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milo@dogodigi.net" target="_blank">milo@dogodigi.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Sanghee,<br><br></div>Thank you for taking this matter to the discuss mailinglist. My first reaction when clicking the links from your post was, no problem, this is well accepted from my european perspective and I do not directly see any offense in them nor see any offense in other cultures. However, after looking at them in context (in the slideshare presentation) this is my opinion.<br></div><br></div>1. I don't understand the slides with the Dali painting. What do you want to say with them? In my opinion they can be removed without downgrading the presentation.<br><br></div>2. In my opinion; the slide with the header "Culture" showing the row of female models will bring a better message with another picture. Currently I interpret this slide as: "Come to Korea for the beautiful women" and I believe that is not the message you want to send under the header "Culture".<br><br></div>3. There are a few slides with a lot of prominently displayed alcoholic drinks, in one slide, it even looks like a "drinking game". There are a lot of cultures that are offended by that too. Simply removing them, again, would not make your presentation worse, it would make it stronger.<br><br></div><div>Final thought:<br><br></div><div>I agree with the request for removal/replacement but I think you should also do something about the alcoholic drinks given this presentation holds a prominent position on the main page for the foss4g event. This would make your presentation stronger, because apart from this minor thing, it is an interesting slideshow that has me interested in going to Seoul!<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>looking at the presentation, I got exactly the same feeling as expressed so well by Milo. Personally, I don't feel offended by this presentation as a woman. However, due probably to my limitations, I don't get the messages that you (Sanghee) meant to deliver, otherwise than the one expressed by Milo. I support the idea that, due to the prominent placing of your presentation, it is extremely important that the message conveyed is agreed upon by the majority of the community, because somehow it does represent not only your personal view, but the shared view of the community.</div><div>re to Jeroen: I don't think that the CoC itself caused the rising of this issue, on the contrary, it formalized a statement of how the majority of the community thinks it is right to behave... I think it is there to help, not to create problems..</div><div><br></div><div>just my 2 cents</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#666666">Best regards,</font></div><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><font color="#666666">Dr. Margherita DI LEO </font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:arial;font-size:small">Scientific / technical project officer</span><br></div><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><font color="#666666">European Commission - DG JRC </font></div><div><font color="#666666">Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)</font></div><div><font color="#666666">Via Fermi, 2749</font></div><div><font color="#666666">I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261</font></div><div><font color="#666666"> </font></div><div><font color="#666666">Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 </font></div><div><font color="#666666"><a href="mailto:margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a></font></div><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><font color="#666666">Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission.</font></div></div></div>
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