<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Charlie,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I actually get your point of view, and tend to agree with it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Bart</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Jun 2015, at 13:42, Charles Schweik <<a href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu" class="">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">OK, I raised the question of appropriate content to Jeff after I looked at the FOSS4G website for a reference for a grant proposal I am writing at a time when I was thinking specifically about diversity recruitment to GeoForAll. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">By asking Jeff about it offline, I was raising the question that those slides could turn some women off who are considering attending and I think those kinds of signals are moving the community the wrong direction, and that perhaps the author should consider this. I raised this because I have been in conferences where I've witnessed women being offended by things happening on stage and I think as a community we want to be sensitive to this since we are hopeful for more women to become engaged in FOSS4G.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From my eye going through the slides, I didn't understand (and still don't) why zoom in on the Dali image needed to be on the slideshow. After a more careful examination -- that other viewers won't likely do -- I see that the first slide is an enlargement of part of that painting and then a second picture of it hanging in some building, under the group heading of 'Seoul is far away.' I still don't get why the enlargement is needed... but perhaps that is just me. But I think I am still right -- some women might be turned off to the conference by that zoom-in. </div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sangee, your explanation of the side of the female models is helpful. But some people around the world will not understand it or misinterpret its meaning or why it is there. The 'Culture' heading helps I suppose. So at least consider having something on those slides explaining to readers what they represent better than they do currently. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'll close by saying, with all due respect to Sanghee and the others in this community who disagree with me, is that if you are trying to encourage people to come, and especially if your email footer says 'Towards Diversity' as a goal of the conference, then the 'Precautionary Principle' might be wise to follow. If I was doing the advertising to recruit people, I'd be conservative and wouldn't put up imagery that could turn off potential attendees.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm not advocating any kind of censorship here, and I am not judging whether a COC is necessary or not. I just was simply raising a concern about underlying or subtle messages embedded in a 'commercial' being used to recruit people to our global conference. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It appears that others disagree with this view. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Charlie Schweik </div><div class=""> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:pferrer@osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">pferrer@osgeo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Sanghee,<br class="">
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> I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons why you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting) and slide #20 (row of female models) are those controversial ones.<br class="">
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I'd like to have a little bit more of context to make up my mind<br class="">
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* Who asked to remove the slides?<br class="">
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* Is «being possibily offensive to women» the only reason it was given to you?<br class="">
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On the other hand, obviously you have you own reasons to keep the<br class="">
slides, but those reasons are not clear in the presentation because it<br class="">
lacks of... well, it lacks of someone *explaining* what are we seeing.<br class="">
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May be a less-dependant-on-someone-explaining-presentation is more<br class="">
suitable for being in the landing page of the Conference.<br class="">
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But this is just my POV.<br class="">
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Best regards,<br class="">
<span class=""><font color="#888888" class="">--<br class="">
Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses<br class="">
Valencia (España)<br class="">
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