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So we have had a difficult question related to the CoC. I'm sure it
won't be the first.<br>
<br>
Based on feedback so far, it appears that rough consensus is that
the suggested images don't represent a breach of (western) norms of
what is considered acceptable.<br>
So here is a proposed action plan:<br>
<br>
* OSGeo put the question to a vote (probably on the OSGeo-Conf
list).<br>
<br>
* Assuming the images are considered acceptable by the list, we
respond with:<br>
<br>
"Thank you for raising the possibility of a CoC breach. We have
considered your suggestion, and in this case, we have decided that
we do not think that the intent of the CoC has been breached. If you
have further information which you wish to raise you are welcome to
do so. Thank for you caring and we hope to see you at future OSGeo
events.<br>
Warm regards <chair of committee>"<br>
<br>
I suggest that we don't throw out the the CoC just because of an
over-protective reference to it. The CoC will be very helpful
if/when we need to deal with a serious breach.<br>
<br>
Hi Kristin,<br>
It is great to hear that you are working on an implementation plan.
If you would like some help with reviewing or similar, then feel
free to contact me.<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
Cameron<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/06/2015 1:52 am, Kristin Bott
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, all --
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<div>Including the conference list on this, since I think it's
relevant (and I suspect that variations on this conversation
are happening in multiple corners).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>re: implementation plans for the CoC. A group of folks met
during State of the Map in NYC earlier this month to talk
about what an implementation plan might look like. We are
currently drafting language to present to the board to form a
CoC committee <i>as well as </i>drafting an implementation
plan. Jeff, we can most certainly have this done by 1
September 2015.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Responding to CoC concerns is not simple -- we're trying to
create a structure and a process that will make this as smooth
as possible for all involved.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you have any questions / concerns about this, feel free
to contact me, off-list or otherwise.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>cheers -</div>
<div>-kristin</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Jeff
McKenna <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com"
target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I thank
Sanghee for bringing this to the community. I want to point
out<br>
that having just a "Code of Conduct", words, on a website is
not enough,<br>
there needs to be a whole structure of how to handle this.
In bold<br>
letters I want to state publicly: there is currently no
implementation<br>
plan for the OSGeo Code of Conduct. This is not
acceptable. A few good<br>
volunteers have been discussing offline how to setup an
implementation<br>
plan, as well as possibly even a new OSGeo committee for
this, great,<br>
but, it is still in discussion stage. Without some sort of
plan,<br>
community members are already contacting me directly with
reports, and I<br>
have no formal way to handle these reports. (Sanghee was
nice enough to<br>
help me solve this together publicly, but, this obviously
cannot apply<br>
to all reports)<br>
<br>
I suggest, propose, that if there is no implementation plan
for the Code<br>
of Conduct by the 1st of September, that the Code of Conduct
is removed<br>
from all visible OSGeo pages, and is replaced with a simple
Diversity<br>
statement.<br>
<br>
I am sorry for being direct here, but, as you can see, this
needs to<br>
move forward, or not at all.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
-jeff<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jeff McKenna<br>
President, OSGeo<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna</a><br>
</font></span>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><br>
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<br>
<br>
On 2015-06-24 7:22 AM, Sanghee Shin wrote:<br>
> Dear All,<br>
><br>
> It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of
Conduct)[0] in real case.<br>
><br>
> I was asked to remove a few slides from my
presentation "7 Reasons why you should come to FOSS4G
2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of FOSS4G
Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women.
Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting)
and slide #20 (row of female models) are those
controversial ones.<br>
><br>
> I refused this asking immediately because I don’t
believe my presentation breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t
agree with that view.<br>
><br>
> However since this is not the first time asking me
to remove those slides from my presentation and OSGeo
now have CoC, I think we’d better discuss this issue
more openly to reach conclusions.<br>
><br>
> I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other
people’s opinion on this from all around the world. Also
I expect Conference Committee’s input as well, because
this is the matter of OSGeo conference.<br>
><br>
> I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after
hearing other people’s opinions on this. Also I believe
it’ll be a great chance for OSGeo to learn how to apply
CoC in real cases.<br>
><br>
> *Sidenote for defending myself:<br>
> - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well
known painting named “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]<br>
> - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group,
Girls’ Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic
icon of wide spread of Korean culture(K-Culture)
in/around Asia.<br>
><br>
> All the best,<br>
><br>
> Sanghee<br>
><br>
> [0]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct</a><br>
> [1]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://2015.foss4g.org" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://2015.foss4g.org</a><br>
> [2]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision</a><br>
> [3]<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation</a><br>
> ---<br>
> Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul<br>
> "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!"<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://2015.foss4g.org" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://2015.foss4g.org</a><br>
> Twitter: @foss4g<br>
> Facebook: FOSS4G2015<br>
> email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:foss4gchair@osgeo.org">foss4gchair@osgeo.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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