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<p>If I can just chime in (I told my cat I wasn't). <br>
</p>
<p>The kicker in this is ESRI is deeply entrenched everywhere.
They've entire groups of people just focused on "giving to
schools". I was at the helm of rolling out a full ESRI rollout to
a school in 2012. We had a 50 seat lab setup. I ended up moving
them over to FOSS4G 2 years ago - and I need to go back and update
their setup (they don't know how). The school is Title 1 (which
means the school is very poor). The computers are better than what
they normally get - BUT - they will be using them longer than what
they need to. They will be unable to run the next version of ESRI
Software. The computers can still run FOSS4G software. <br>
</p>
<p>The teachers here in the US (and I have no doubt this is the case
everywhere) are stretched thin. That's what makes ESRI so nice.
They show up and go "here is a curriculum (of sorts) and here is
'free' software". It's a short term win. They have people targeted
to do just that. <br>
</p>
So what would Randy do (and I've thought about this more than I care
to mention) to introduce FOSS4G into the schools: <br>
<br>
A bootable disk with FOSS4G software (I am partial to QGIS - other
things exist) and not everything like the OSGEO Disk. A few select
pieces of software with a purpose:
<ul>
<li>10 lessons of 1 hour apiece to work through that are student
oriented (maybe pick an age range - 12-16)<br>
</li>
<ul>
<li>Start globally and work down to locally. Maybe we have
different local datasets. <br>
</li>
</ul>
<li>An explanation for the teachers. They don't understand like we
do - they need us there for hand holding and encouragement. They
can manage kids - We need to help manage the lessons. I'm not a
teacher. I can teach adults - but not kids - it's a whole
different game. <br>
</li>
<li>A spot where teachers can get the lessons (NOT GITHUB) and the
disk (maybe we combine all things into a bootable USB stick). <br>
</li>
<li>Help - a place where they can get help (NOT GITHUB). My town
has 30+ schools. If more than 1 does this I can't be everywhere.
ESRI put out a call for Geomentors. We put out a call. <br>
</li>
<li>We have COMMUNITY - I don't believe ESRI currently does. They
have an advertising budget. 20 years ago they had community. We
have momentum now. Community is greater than an Advertising
budget. <br>
</li>
<li>Advertise it. Ask for help from the teachers. <br>
</li>
<li>Update it. <br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>I know I'm asking for a lot - it's time intensive - but I think
it's 100% doable. I go to speak at 2 colleges on GIS Day on
nothing but FOSS4G. <br>
</p>
<p>We've got all the pieces to make this work except time. I'll
carve out some time if this gets going. </p>
<p>I wished the cat had stopped me. Now I'm in it. <br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/28/2016 09:16 AM, Jeff McKenna
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:bd203f90-eb92-eaf1-aaaf-4bd1fcecfcbd@gatewaygeomatics.com"
type="cite">As if someone is reading this ha, a tweet just came
across my desk:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/GIS4Teachers/status/791981572991746048">https://twitter.com/GIS4Teachers/status/791981572991746048</a>
<br>
<br>
So, we need to also get into that huge K-12 market, plant the open
seed early :) A challenge indeed.
<br>
<br>
Think on this over the weekend,
<br>
<br>
-jeff
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-27 12:36 PM, SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Sadly, only ESRI seems to exist for some
in the USA...Imagine the
<br>
consequences of
<br>
this:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pobonline.com/articles/100610-gathering-up-geospatial-pros-to-meet-massive-market-growth">http://www.pobonline.com/articles/100610-gathering-up-geospatial-pros-to-meet-massive-market-growth</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sergio Acosta y Lara
<br>
Departamento de Geomática
<br>
Dirección Nacional de Topografía
<br>
Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
<br>
URUGUAY
<br>
(598)29157933 ints. 20329/20330
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/">http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/</a>
<br>
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</blockquote>
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