<div dir="auto">Marc<div dir="auto">I agree, great and huge work was done.</div><div dir="auto">Maybe a freezing period before of any public release/presentation would be good?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We're not in a hurry... </div><div dir="auto">With more time review and discussion can run smoothly?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, We're in the middle of the holiday season and also vacation time is limited :-) to answer and check contents...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Great work done</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maxi</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best</div><div dir="auto">Maxi</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il 16 ago 2017 2:42 PM, "Marc Vloemans" <<a href="mailto:marcvloemans1@gmail.com">marcvloemans1@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear all,</div><div><br></div><div>I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the brink of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again.</div><div><br></div><div>Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please be it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand. The site is still in full progress, if one looks behind the scenes; there is a really massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey experience is enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress and ..... the FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too.</div><div><br></div><div>It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding projects and policy related issues here.</div><div>Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still iterations to be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary, unparalleled in recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license. That has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a later date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects can be done in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy grail. </div><div><br></div><div>And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer hours in a volunteer day. </div><div><br><div>Kind regards,<br><div>Marc Vloemans</div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just because we would be
perceived as providing advertising platform for projects which are not really free and open source (I guess we will hear more about this from Stallman tomorrow).
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<p>When I use the link <a class="m_-7262770494053113517m_8238421439794344556moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/" target="_blank">
http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl<wbr>/projects/</a> directly, I am seeing the page with all projects, with projects in what seems to be random order (and with some of the OSGEO projects, like GRASS, on the last page). Only when I click on 'projects' in the menu
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<div>This is going to be an interesting week collecting feedback when lots of the website is not working as designed quite yet (examples tagging and sorting). To be fair the vast majority of project descriptions were entered last weekend so this is our first
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>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 um 06:28 Uhr<br>
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>Not sure it is much of an explanation - our vision as a group is to empower everyone with geospatial - and there is a lot of open source >spatial to promote.<br>
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</span>>By the same vision <a href="http://live.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
live.osgeo.org</a>[<a href="http://live.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://live.osg<wbr>eo.org</a>] includes all kinds of projects :)<br>
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</span>>The website is a beta, we now have enough projects to test out these ideas and see what issues we can find. There is a meeting tomorrow >with the vendor that should be productive (a hands on training session[<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org</a><br>
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is there anywhere a documented discussion or a documented and approved decision about how the project selection to be listed on the OSGeo website is done? I can't find anyone.<br>
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To be inclusive is one side; not to distinguish OSGeo projects from other software projects from other initatives (e.g. locationtech) or GIS vendors without any supplement words in the OSGeo website, I'm feeling unconformable with it.<br>
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