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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Eli,<br>
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First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO<br>
and fixing the CRO alias promptly. <br>
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Regarding your other comment reproduced below;<br>
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<pre wrap="">The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05</a>, so perhaps it is
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The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05
board meeting did not arise<br>
as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.<br>
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I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the
proper<br>
process.<br>
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Best<br>
<br>
Venka<br>
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On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi Eli,
I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
--
Jorge Sanz
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jorgesanz.net">https://jorgesanz.net</a>
Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us"><eadam@co.lincoln.or.us></a> escribió:
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr"><gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr></a>
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<pre wrap="">Dear Eli,
as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
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<pre wrap="">co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive. Thanks
for pointing it out to me.
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Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
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<pre wrap="">he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
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Was the <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cro@osgeo.org">cro@osgeo.org</a> email alias updated? I didn't notice a ticket
for that. I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
proper process. The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05</a>, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.
Best regards, Eli
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Best regards,
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html</a>
Gérald Fenoy
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay</a>
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<pre wrap="">Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us"><eadam@co.lincoln.or.us></a> a écrit :
Nicolas,
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nicolas.bozon@gmail.com"><nicolas.bozon@gmail.com></a>
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It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
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I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer</a>.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
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Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
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<pre wrap="">over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
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Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
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<pre wrap="">Experienced
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Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
welcome Jeff back at the Board!
Best regards,
Nicolas Bozon
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Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
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The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
doesn't occur. The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
appointment as CRO. Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it. Also,
someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
process and raise these issues.
Best regards, Eli
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