<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear all,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Please notice that the concept of diversity is not about equal numbers/quota's. That has and will backfire as it misses the point and easily degrades individual achievements. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">It is essentially about 'inclusiveness'!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I am trying to be sensitive to the European way of approaching the matter versus the American way. 'Diversity' as a term carries different connotations/values/interpretations for different cultures.</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Therefore I rather talk about 'inclusiveness' as everyone has felt left out at least once. So is able to relate to how that feels.</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Are we inviting and welcoming everyone that adds value in some way or is genuinely interested in OSGeo?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Do we truly have the 'open' culture we pride ourselves on (e.g. past email treads attacking individuals could suggest differently)?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Please, lets work on that, keep each other sharp and avoid window dressing.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Kind regards,<br><div>Marc Vloemans</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>Op 13 okt. 2017 om 08:23 heeft MarĂa Arias de Reyna <<a href="mailto:delawen+osgeo@gmail.com">delawen+osgeo@gmail.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Ger-Jan (and all),<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting <a href="http://OSGeo.nl">OSGeo.nl</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gert-jan@osgeo.nl" target="_blank">gert-jan@osgeo.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="NL" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-3724392036584331091WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Board member candidates (and fellow voter members),</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">= And one to all of you:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Some of you talk about being an inclusive organization. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For the geographical and probably cultural aspect of inclusiveness, do you think the Board should have it's roots in as much continents / languages as possible, so preferably 1 Board member from every continent (not counting for Antarctica, ha!)</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><div>I am no friend of quotas. At least everytime I have been offered things just because I was a woman and they needed a female because [reason not related to my real value] it made me feel really bad. Why would I want to be somewhere (a board or whatever) where everyone knows I am there not because I deserve it but because something I didn't even choose? If I accepted, no one was going to hear my voice, I would have been unable to do anything for real. No, thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Said this, on an ideal world probably we would have in average one person for each continent or language or culture or ethnicity or gender or whatever criteria you want to split people into. </div><div><br></div><div>Would we achieve this by forcing quotas? We could but, I rather prefer to get more diverse people engage and enthusiast with OSGeo so in the end they will become natural leaders. Making an effort to help diverse people more comfortable in OSGeo and encourage them to participate more? Yes. Giving visibility to diverse people that are doing great things inside OSGeo? Sure. Making an effort to put someone in some position just because we have to fill a quota? No, thanks.</div></div><br></div></div>
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