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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If I may, I find Arnulf’s guidance very refreshing!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Both his Yin (vote now) and his Yang (vote again).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">∞</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And I have just heard the UN is prepared to recognize OSGeo as full-voting member of the UN General Assembly if
we are able to hold a successful election! But only if we include one Panda and one Polar bear, and an almost equal number of women. I know we can do it! Oops, sorry, another one of those LSD flashbacks. ;-0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="tgc"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Remember what we are voting for. . .<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="tgc"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Open Source Geospatial Foundation (<b><span style="font-weight:bold">OSGeo</span></b>) is a not-for-profit organization whose
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">mission</span></b> is to foster global adoption of open geospatial technology by being an inclusive software foundation devoted to an open philosophy and participatory community driven development.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Let’s kick-start this thing, with some positive momentum!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Discuss
[mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>seven<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 22, 2017 9:34 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> nik@nikosalexandris.net; vasile@geo-spatial.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] withdrawal from Board election<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">After reading latest posts I agree that canceling the elections might open Pandora's box (which is not going to happen because we are all grown up and work towards the
same goal, right?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Honestly, having Jeff retrospectively withdrawing his resignation and accepting the election and sit on the board will make him (and us all) look really silly. I already
regret to have voiced my opinion at all. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Vasile, Board, you have my fullest compassion. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mind your business<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Von:
<a href="mailto:nik@nikosalexandris.net">nik@nikosalexandris.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Datum: 22.10.17 18:18 (GMT+01:00)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">An:
<a href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] withdrawal from Board election
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear Vasile,<br>
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for what is worth, from my short experience as a CRO for GRASS' PSC elections last year, and I mean my readings on and off in trying to be useful for the process,<br>
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I think it is not useful to cancel running elections. Nor it is to accept any withdrawal during the process.<br>
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The candidacies, the process and the result should be protected from any such actions. Else, it is like openning a small Pandora's box and any similar difficulty could eventually cancel the elections.<br>
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Please, let the process finish, don't rush. Give time for second thoughts to everyone. After the elections, life will go on somehow as Even sketched it very well.<br>
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Nikos <br>
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À Dimanche 22 octobre 2017, Vasile Craciunescu a écrit :<br>
> Barry,<br>
> <br>
> I fully agree with you that a complete restart is the fairest way to go. <br>
> However, people are getting really tired with this subject and some <br>
> already unsubscribe from this mailing list. Also, not sure if this <br>
> should be my call or the board should formally decide on this. Probably <br>
> should be me, as four of the board are standing for reelection. I know <br>
> that most of you are irritated by the amount of emails that circulate <br>
> this days on the mailing list but I would like to hear more opinions on <br>
> this subject before taking a decision.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> Vasile<br>
> CRO 2017<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 10/22/17 4:33 PM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > My proposal to the Board and the OSGeo charter members is to leave the<br>
> > list as it is and make sure that the people that did not vote yet are<br>
> > aware of Jeff's request to withdraw from the Board elections.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > No, this is completely off. If a candidate withdraws during an election, <br>
> > you should declare the current ballot void and start a new one without <br>
> > the withdrawn candidate.<br>
> > Leaving the ballot running, but telling people who have not voted yet <br>
> > that one candidate has withdrawn is *unfair* to those who already voted.<br>
> > <br>
> > I would hope that running a ballot is low-enough cost that this doesn't <br>
> > have a cost impact, unlike a paper election!<br>
> > <br>
> > If Jeff had been elected to the board and then resigned the day after <br>
> > the election then I assume there's regulations for having new <br>
> > by-elections for vacant seats, but this situation is not the same.<br>
> > <br>
> > Barry<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I can<br>
> > insert the information in the reminder mail that I'm planing to submit<br>
> > tonight/Monday morning.<br>
> > <br>
> > Best,<br>
> > Vasile<br>
> > CRO 2017<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > [1] <a href="http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017">http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017</a><br>
> > <<a href="http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017">http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017</a>><br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > On 10/21/17 3:34 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:<br>
> > > Dear CRO,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Please accept my withdrawal from the Board election. I am sorry to<br>
> > > cause all of the problems so clearly explained by so many here<br>
> > publicly<br>
> > > this election.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I wish to take the time now to thank all of the candidates for<br>
> > > volunteering their time for the OSGeo community.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Yours,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > -Jeff McKenna<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > Discuss mailing list<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
> > > <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
> > <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a>><br>
> > <br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Discuss mailing list<br>
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> > <br>
> > <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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