<div dir="ltr">Patrick:<div><br></div><div>We do have an easy way to join, as an OSGeo community project. </div><div><br></div><div>This does require interest (project's ask to join) rather respect (that we offer to all grandmothers). </div><div><br></div><div>OSGeo as an organization has standards we ask all our projects to meet. As an example communicating clearly how a project functions and how new contributors can join. In reviewing you GitHub repository I was able to find your contact details on the <a href="https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WebWorldWind/blob/develop/CONTRIBUTING.md">CONTRIBUTING.md</a> instructions, but could not determine the other team members (unless it is this <a href="https://github.com/orgs/NASAWorldWind/people">GitHub list</a>).</div><div><div><br></div><div>If it helps GRASS, would would be the matriarch of our community, also went through incubation to work through communication goals such as these.<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 10:06, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <<a href="mailto:patrick.hogan@nasa.gov">patrick.hogan@nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dearly appreciate your concern and support!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If WorldWind is not sufficient to be part of the OSGeo family as is,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">maybe being grand-mothered in, given its age,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">a good five years older than OSGeo,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">then I guess we’ll just have to carry on without.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We simply have not the time to navigate the obstacle course,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">despite being as Open Source Geospatial as it gets,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">both in principle and in action, for quite some time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have always considered ESA-NASA WorldWind as part of OSGeo by default.
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 11, 2018 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Suchith Anand<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); OSGeo-incubator; ML osgeo discuss; <a href="mailto:geoforall@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On June 11, 2018 1:58 AM, Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hi Patrick,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks for your email and your contributions to OSGeo Principles over the years . Though I do not have background knowledge of the incubation discussions that
you went through in OSGeo , I do hope that Worldwind becomes part of the OSGeo family in the near future. We will keep trying.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">GeoForAll have always welcomed Worldwind and other <span class="m_402253275817767090size"> like minded initiatives as part of our outreach efforts in education and we are
hoping that this will lead in the future for building more </span>synergies<span class="m_402253275817767090size"> . The Europa challenge has been a great boost for GeoForAll education efforts and we are grateful for your tireless work over the years for making this possible.</span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I want to wish you the very best for the next chapter of your life. Great idea to go back to school teaching after your retirement. That
will also help the GeoForAll School Education efforts ... Thanks again for your contributions to Open Principles in education.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090colour"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b></span><span class="m_402253275817767090colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on
behalf of Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <<a href="mailto:patrick.hogan@nasa.gov" target="_blank">patrick.hogan@nasa.gov</a>></span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
<span class="m_402253275817767090colour"><b>Sent:</b> 09 June 2018 23:31</span><br>
<span class="m_402253275817767090colour"><b>To:</b> Jody Garnett; OSGeo-incubator</span><br>
<span class="m_402253275817767090colour"><b>Cc:</b> ML osgeo discuss; <a href="mailto:geoforall@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><a name="m_402253275817767090_x__MailEndCompose" id="m_402253275817767090LPlnk561446"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jody, Howdy!</span></span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Despite every attempt to support OSGeo and the principles therein, WorldWind seems to always be met with something missing. I am not WorldWind.
WorldWind is an open source platform that has been dedicated to delivering geospatial data for 15 years now.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m sure WorldWind would like to be embraced by OSGeo, but somehow it seems WorldWind has never learned the special handshake. I am old
now and retiring soon, so others will need to take the lead, if there is one to take. I have repeatedly expressed the desire for WorldWind to be, as you put it, “a part of the OSGeo family.”</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As an ESA-NASA open source project, in full support of OSGeo principles, I do not understand why WorldWind is not “part of the OSGeo family.”
I hope OSGeo will choose to ^adopt^ ESA-NASA WorldWind someday as part of their family, someday.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For my part, I plan to return to my former career, some 30-plus years ago, as a High School science teacher. Now I am looking forward to
work with Kindergarten kids, pretty much the ‘unhinged’ ^wild bunch^ with whom I feel closest too.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">May OSGeo be the ‘big tent’ it can be for the world of Open Source Geospatial software.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span class="m_402253275817767090size"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 9, 2018 10:05 AM</span><br>
<span class="m_402253275817767090size"><b>To:</b> Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); OSGeo-incubator</span><br>
<span class="m_402253275817767090size"><b>Subject:</b> osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="color:black">Morning Patrick (and incubation list).</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="color:black">The most recent board meeting has a request for the incubation committee to ask you about World Wind joining OSGeo. See <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-06-06#Discuss_and_approve_OSGeo_as_partner_for_UN_World_Challenge_2018" id="m_402253275817767090LPlnk75188" target="_blank">Discuss
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I figure it is that GeoForAll, just like the foundation, has a goal of supporting the adoption of all open source spatial projects. And should be held back by what projects have decide to join our foundation.</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="color:black">By the same token our website lists all open source mapping projects, including
<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/" id="m_402253275817767090LPlnk237955" target="_blank">ESA-NASA World Wind</a>. That page is really sparse and does not tell the public very much about the project, perhaps that is something to work on? Indeed if you fill in some more
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Until then we are happy to support world wind in a more limited capacity (Website,GeoForAll).</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_402253275817767090xmsonormal"><span class="m_402253275817767090size"><span style="color:black">All the best and happy mapping</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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