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<p>I think this email, cited by Sara Safavi, from Marc Vloemans [1]
is just unbelievable and thus unacceptable to this community.<br>
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I demand a public apology by Marc Vloemans for his accusations
against Sara Safavi and the OSGeo organisation and community.
Furthermore, I demand the OSGeo board to force LocationTech to
publish the finacial records as a matter of course. I also suggest
to discontinue any relationships with LocationTech if there is no
public apology for this incident.<br>
<br>
If we (OSGeo) fail to make it at clear as possible, that
mafia-like behavior of silencing very valid requests about holding
a promise for transparency (i.e. a core value of our community),
is unacceptable and thus will not be accepted by any means.
Otherwise THIS will become very toxic for OSGeo indeed.<br>
<br>
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[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.06.2018 um 23:50 schrieb Sara:<br>
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cite="mid:CAF+W3R6Uy95Y4dWGZ4grURcQbvmFfSsAgQbEK0n7VQ4X87aUhQ@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Cameron, all,
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<div>I was originally trying to avoid any semblance of "stirring
up trouble", but I think I messed up and need to be clearer.</div>
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<div>Earlier in this thread I said:</div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">> It's not a matter of
hurtful words, though; it's no longer wanting to be
affiliated with a community whose members make open threats
to my employment. I like & need my job too much to
continue making myself a target for that.</span><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">For the benefit of anyone on
discuss@ who is not also on conference_dev@, I am referring
to the message I replied to here:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html</a></span><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">To be excessively clear:
after the above exchange, I do not feel safe participating
further in a community which has *officers* who can attempt
to threaten my livelihood unchallenged, simply because I
persisted in asking a question.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">As I told Jeff earlier, I'll
still be out here "doing the work" but the OSGeo community
no longer feels like a safe or welcoming place for me to do
that from.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Cameron said:</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">> </span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">We should do our best to ensure
opinions are stated respectfully, and encourage forgiveness
when we slip up and get a bit passionate.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I'm not sure who you are
referring to with this, but please do let me know if you
mean me.</span></div>
<div><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Regards,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Sara</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:01 PM,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sara,<br>
<br>
+1 to Jeff and Maxi's words of personal support.<br>
<br>
We are an effective community when people feel welcomed and
participate. This doesn't happen when people leave, either
silently (as is usually the case), or publicly as you have
suggested here. We should be able to hear people's opinions
and respect their right to say them. We should do our best
to ensure opinions are stated respectfully, and encourage
forgiveness when we slip up and get a bit passionate.<br>
<br>
(We say as much in our Code of Conduct). <a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_<wbr>conduct/</a><br>
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Warm regards, Cameron
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On 21/6/18 12:26 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Sara,<br>
<br>
Although we haven't (yet) shared FOSS4G travels
together I have to say that I truly admire your
passion and efforts, and we share a lot of the same
traits (do-ing, asking questions, diving in, etc.) I
strongly second Maxi's words. You are a leader and a
big part of the OSGeo community. Much of what you
have been saying or asking I've been literally taking
notes of how we can improve. In fact I see you taking
on more of a role and not less. I am just speaking
from the heart and being open.<br>
<br>
I know how the written word can be so hurtful these
days (and I don't want / but yet know that
unfortunately my own words here can be misinterpreted
as taking one side versus another), but I hope this
public support shown here can give you renewed hope
and energy for the OSGeo community.<br>
<br>
I encourage you to keep being you.<br>
<br>
-jeff<br>
<br>
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On 2018-06-19 2:03 PM, Sara wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello community,<br>
<br>
Can someone point me at the relevant documentation
re: retiring current membership status?
Specifically, related to Charter membership.<br>
<br>
I understand the processes to nominate & add new
charter members but not clear on how current charter
members can retire.<br>
<br>
To put it another way: how to edit <a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.osgeo.org/about/ch<wbr>arter-members/</a>
<<a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.osgeo.org/about/c<wbr>harter-members/</a>>?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Sara Safavi<br>
<br>
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