<div><div dir="auto">Reading online it appears there is:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. A mailing list mode so notifications are sent out each time a post is made (this is a user preference)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. A reply via email mode</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So experimentation is needed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Reference:</div><div dir="auto">- <div><a href="https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8" target="_blank">https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8</a></div>- <div><a href="https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003" target="_blank">https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003</a></div><br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an informed decision.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described.<br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@erosion.dev" target="_blank">vicky@erosion.dev</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to nabble used to? Is searchable etc …</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></blockquote><div>I don't know the details of how discourse works, </div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers - so it is one way communication.</div></blockquote><div><a href="https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990" target="_blank">https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990</a></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting yet more email).</div></blockquote><div>Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for Q&A <br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara <<a href="mailto:vicky@erosion.dev" target="_blank">vicky@erosion.dev</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jody</div><div><br></div><div>We are offering options</div><div><br></div><div>Before:</div><div>Use mailing list<br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>After:</div><div>* Use mailing list and see the archives only on <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/</a><br></div><div>* Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse</div>* Use discourse without a mailing list
<div><br></div><div><br></div>This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list<br><div>* Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1] (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from mailing list)</div><div><div>* Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse)</div><div><div></div><div>* Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)<br>* Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing list and see the archives only on <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13</a></div><div>[3] <a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1</a><br></div><div>[4] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div>Regards</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Vicky<br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being offered.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options are being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are mailing lists going away? 2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing list and not add dicourse?</div>
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Thanks, Eli</div>
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<b style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM<br>
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<div dir="auto">I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.<br>
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<div>Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.</div>
<div>Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.<br>
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<div>If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.<br>
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<div>The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.<br>
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<div>When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and they can log in using ldap, or github account.</div>
<div>If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the person that logged in.</div>
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<div>We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,<br>
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<div>* Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse</div>
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<div>* Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list<br>
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<div>A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including private mailing lists):<br>
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<div>You need to open a ticket to have the work done.<br>
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<div>Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse:<br>
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Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064</a> (has link to ticket 3063)<br>
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Created the following discourse category<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5</a><br>
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<div>And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed:<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/</a></div>
<div>Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of january.<br>
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<div>Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@<a href="http://discourse.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discourse.osgeo.org</a>
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<div>Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse<br>
Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062</a></div>
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<div>Created the following discourse category<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13</a><br>
The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing list</div>
<div>emails continue to be sent to <a href="mailto:sac@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
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<div>Replies can be done<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara</a><br>
But they will no be reflected on the mailing list<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html</a><br>
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<div>Example: of category without mailing list<br>
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<div>Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066</a></div>
<div><a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8</a><br>
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