[Dutch] Fwd: Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

[Just van den Broecke]

Praktisch gezien: voor degenen die het niet met het ESRI voorstel eens 
zijn, je kunt in ieder geval de Open Letter naar OGC ondertekenen:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API#Signed

groeten,

Just

On 08-05-13 14:54, Frank Steggink wrote:
> Deze discussie doet me erg aan het volgende denken: http://xkcd.com/927/
> Of om Andrew Tanenbaum te citeren: "The nice thing about standards is
> that you have so many to choose from."
>
> Door de zoveelste "geoweb"-standaard te definiëren, dreigt de OGC haar
> doel als standaardiseringsorganisatie mijlenver te missen.
>
> Groeten,
>
> Frank Steggink
>
> Quoting Gert-Jan van der Weijden <geejee op dds.nl>:
>
>> Goede discussie inderdaad.
>>
>> Voor de Nederlandstaligen heb ik er op www.gisnederland.nl een blog aan
>> gewijd
>>
>>
>>
>> Met een schuin oog op de agenda zie ik van 13-16 mei (dus volgende
>> week) het
>> GeoSpatial World Forum 2013, waar wij (hulde aan Paul v Genuchten!) als
>> osgeo.nl de track open source verzorgen.
>>
>> Is het nog zinvol (ja!) en haalbaar (Paul?) om daar aandacht te
>> besteden aan
>> deze discussie. Niet gehinderd door het feit dat “open source” en “open
>> standaarden” twee verschillende dingen zijn
>>
>> (ik zie verder in het programma ook een track over “standards &
>> interoperability”, maar ik betijfel of dáár deze discussie op tafel
>> komt).
>>
>>
>>
>> Ik zou van iedere spreker wel willen horen hoeveel (OGC-) standaarden ze
>> willen ondersteunen: de WxS familie / KML / Esri Geoservices REST / Who’s
>> next?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Groet,
>>
>>
>>
>> Gert-Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Van: dutch-bounces op lists.osgeo.org [mailto:dutch-bounces op lists.osgeo.org]
>> Namens Jeroen Ticheler
>> Verzonden: dinsdag 7 mei 2013 9:42
>> Aan: dutch
>> Onderwerp: [Dutch] Fwd: Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices
>> REST API"
>> became an OGC standard?
>>
>>
>>
>> Beste mensen,
>>
>>
>>
>> Op OSGeo Discuss is een intensieve discussie gaande over een mogelijk
>> nieuwe
>> OGC specificatie genaamd GeoServices REST API.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lees hieronder, lees de hele conversatie op
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-May/thread.html
>>
>>
>>
>> De discussie is belangrijk omdat de geloofwaardigheid van OGC als
>> standaarden organisatie op het spel staat. Dus schroom niet en laat je
>> horen.
>>
>>
>>
>> Groet,
>>
>> Jeroen
>>
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>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter op gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: [Board] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API"
>> became
>> an OGC standard?
>>
>> Date: 4 mei 2013 12:46:33 CEST
>>
>> To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss op lists.osgeo.org>
>>
>> Cc: standards op lists.osgeo.org, OSGeo-Board <board op lists.osgeo.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> OSGeo Community,
>>
>> Currently, voting OGC members are to decide whether to accept the
>> "GeoServices REST API" as an OGC standard. This is already a contentious
>> issue, with 13 votes for, and 10 votes against, 72 outstanding votes,
>> with
>> voting halted temporally, being reopened again in a few days, and
>> closing 2
>> weeks after that. [1]
>>
>> I'm wanting to hear whether people in the OSGeo community have strong
>> opinions regarding this proposed standard, and whether we as a collective
>> OSGeo community should make statements to the OGC, and voting OGC
>> members,
>> stressing our thoughts.
>>
>> If there is sufficient interest, I'll raise this issue with the OSGeo
>> Board,
>> with the intent of drafting a statement on behalf of OSGeo.
>>
>> As background:
>> * "The API was initially developed by Esri and implemented on the
>> ArcGIS for
>> Server platform." [2]
>>
>> * The proposed GeoServices REST API specification overlaps with most OGC
>> standards already deployed, including: WMS, WMTS, WCS, WFS, SE/SLD, CS/W.
>> This effectively means that for most use cases covered by the GeoServices
>> REST API, applications would now have two standards to support. Also,
>> spatial infrastructure programs will be impacted, as OGC compliance won't
>> necessarily equate to interoperability.
>>
>> * Most (all?) current OGC web service standards to date have an Open
>> Source
>> reference implementation, which was often (always?) part funded by OGC
>> testbeds, and open source implementations were tested against proprietary
>> implementations during OGC testbeds. As far as I'm aware, there has been
>> very little up-take from the Open Source community of the "GeoServices
>> REST
>> API", and I'm unaware of any testing of non-ESRI applications during OGC
>> testbeds. (Someone may be able to correct me here).
>>
>> [1] https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects
>> <https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&su
>>
>> btab=0> &a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0
>> (OGC member login required. Votes counted as at 4 May 2013)
>>
>> [2] http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89
>>
>> --
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>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
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