From punkish at osgeo.org Sun Jul 9 12:51:37 2006 From: punkish at osgeo.org (punkish@osgeo.org) Date: Fri Dec 22 13:54:15 2006 Subject: svn commit: r39 - trunk/www Message-ID: <20060709165137.29441.qmail@osgeo.org> Author: punkish Date: 2006-07-09 16:51:37+0000 New Revision: 39 Added: trunk/www/minutes_06_09_2006.html trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html Modified: trunk/www/meetings.html Log: Modified: trunk/www/meetings.html Url: https://edu.osgeo.org/source/browse/edu/trunk/www/meetings.html?view=diff&rev=39&p1=trunk/www/meetings.html&p2=trunk/www/meetings.html&r1=38&r2=39 ============================================================================== --- trunk/www/meetings.html (original) +++ trunk/www/meetings.html 2006-07-09 16:51:37+0000 @@ -3,10 +3,12 @@ Education Committee: Meetings -

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The meeting was +called to order. The following major items were discussed -- + +1. Dealing with course material: Charlie Schweik wanted to know how to +get material into MediaWiki as he would like to keep some contol over it for his +online courses. Currently, he uses a wiki, but would like to allow new +derivative works albeit with some kind of peer review. Tyler thought that +getting at least 4-5 other folks to commit to peer reviewing material would be +helpful. It was suggested that Charlie keep a canonical version under his own +control, and let a public version be on the wiki. Alternatively, he could just +put a link on the wiki to point to his version, without forking versions. +Creative Commons was suggested as the licensing regime under which to publish +any tutorial work. + +2. Conferences: Puneet announced that the North American Cartographic +Information Society (NACIS) convention will be held in Madison, WI, in October. +He hopes to get Tyler's brochures for that. Maybe have an official-ish edu booth +there. Perry also wanted to use the brochures for a conference he will be +attending in July. + +3. Calendar: Puneet presented his "personal" conferences calendar. Use any +iCal-compliant program to access punkish.eidesis.org/cal_public/conferences.ics. + +4. Brochure: Tyler has been working hard on the brochure for the +Where 2.0 conference. Discussion was held on the brochure, and members provided +useful feedback to Tyler. Specifically, more graphics showing FOSSGIS tools were +desired. Puneet decided to send out a RFG (request for graphics!) on the +discussion list. On Charlie's feedback, Puneet decided to make the edu webpage +more easy to allow joining the committee or subscribing to the list. Tyler +expressed the need for Flash-based demos such as provided by QGIS. + +The next meeting was set for 8:00 am GMT-6, Friday, July 7, 2006 via IRC. 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The meeting was +called to order. The following major items were discussed -- + +1. Calendars: Markus pointed out that there were now two calendars for +edu meetings, and wanted to confirm which calendar to watch. Puneet is going to +keep both calendars for now, but since his personal calendar is much easier to +update and administer than the OSGeo calendar (because of security permissions), +he will publicize the personal calendar. + OSGeo calendar + Puneet's personal calendar. + +2. Where 2.0 Conference Report: Aaron Racicot reported his perspective +from the recent Where 2.0 conference that he attended. There was quite a bit of +attendance at the booth with a lot of folks wearing OSGeo shirts. People who had +never heard of OSGeo were a bit confused as to our relationship to OGC. Most +people just wanted to hear about the big projects. Turnout was pretty great for +the talks as well, one on GRASS, Mapbender, Worldwind, Mapguide, GDAL, etc. +crschmidt mentioned that the Mapbender+Geoserver's talk was very informative, +light, quick, to the point, and a much better demonstration of OGC tech than OGC +was able to put together in his opinion. Puneet asked if one could get a sense +of what kind of unmet desire for osgeo course material/edu type packages is out +there? were there folks lamenting the lack of such things? Racicot did not +notice a big "outcry" for more edu materials at the conference, as most people +there where looking specifically at technology ( i.e. they were already GIS/Web +professionals ). Most of the people he met from education were actually grad +students using GIS in their thesis work. adoyle emphasized that it is key to +educate the students about FOSSGIS so they will demand it when they graduate. +Puneet wondered if a survey targeting geospatial profs. and lecturers ( esp. +those NOT currently involved with FOSSGIS ) would be helpful? Should this be +undertaken as a research project? Raghavan asked if there were any comments +about OSGeo from the OGC guys who attend Where2.0? adoyle spoke to Louis Hecht +(OGC bus. development guy). Louis Hecht said Where2.0 really opened his eyes. +Apparently he's never seen anything like it, not a world he's been exposed to. + + +Other conferences: Gary_Watry mentioned thatAuburn University is willing +to set up a Open Source track/workshop at their Symposium Oct 31- Nov 1. + +Aaron mentioned that he will be at the OSCON conference at the end of the month +and will be manning the OSGeo booth and giving at talk on OSGeo software at one +of the sessions. He welcomed any ideas on forwarding the Edu cause. + +Perry will be giving a workshop at the Federation of Earth Science Information +Partners (ESIP) meeting in a couple of +weeks and would like to take some of the brochures that Tyler had at Where 2.0 + +3. Get-togethers: Jazon wanted ideas on how to organize seminars on open +source gis. Specifically, he wanted to know of anyone in the Liverpool area who +would be interested in giving a talk. Perry suggested announcing the request on +the discussion list. + +Racicot mentioned Portland State University as having a once monthly +gathering at the university to talk about OSGIS. + +Puneet pointed out an informal gathering of osgeo types in Madison, WI. +. + +Racicot suggested that the best way he has been able to penetrate the +educational area is to volunteer to go and give a talk personally, and once the +word gets out the faculty with an open mind ( or curiosity ) toward OSGIS will +come and ask. He would like a collection of material together so he is not +giving the same type of talk all the time -- especially, pre-canned templates +for presentations/lectures would be very important. Puneet suggested the use of +S5: A Simple Standards-Based Slide Show System for +creating presentation templates. + +Perry mentioned that he used to do what Aaron suggested, but without any classes +that specifically use OSGeo software, it's hard to get people's attention. The +U of Minnesota is a big ESRI shop. + +Gary_Watry mentioned that the new Geography Department Head at FSU is into Open +Source, so he is setting up meeting to explore including open source in his +course work both in lab and classroom. + +Books: Raghavan said that it is difficult to promote GIS at the Univ. +without having regular text book. Tyler's Web Mapping recently translated to +Japanese is the only OSGeo related book available in local language. He said +that Text book 1: Intro to Open Source Geopatial Software is badly needed. +Aaron thought that a bigger problem with a book that covers the whole "osgis" +space is that the technology changes so rapidly. While this is good for the +author and his/her ability to write new additions, it is not good for the +prospect of using the book. Targeted books like the GRASS book are great for +covering very stable long term projects, but projects such as OpenLayers are so +new that they would not be in a base book released last year. Markus emphasized +that the GRASS book is even more than a manual, it covers concepts and methods +as well. + +Perry brought attention to EOGEO-hosted FreeGISBook. +adoyle said that he would like to move it to the OSGeo wiki under a CC license, +and wanted to know if there was support for such a move. Perry, Raghavan, and +Puneet expressed support for such a move. FrankW also supported such a move, and +suggested that it become an edu committee project. Markus wanted to know if the +book go to the osgeo wiki or to wikibook.osgeo.org. FrankW thought that we need +to demonstrate our ability to flesh out quality content. Puneet offered to set +up a FreeGISBook committee link on the edu wiki. + +Journal and Newsletter: An OSGeo Journal was suggested and seconded by +a few members. adoyle expressed a need for "packaged" articles that don't change +(Journal) as well as "live" stuff that does change (wiki). adoyle also expressed +a need for peer-reviewed articles. He suggested that with a good rating system, +the journal could be considered peer reviewed. Aaron supported that as it would +provide legitimacy in the educational committee. Ned Horning liked idea of a +journal but suggested that maybe it's better to start with the newsletter and +let it evolve if that makes sense. There is no shortage of peer reviewed geo +journals for people who want to publish. + +Racicot supported getting work into the established journals. But Raghavan +mentioned that there is a shortage of peer-reviewed journals under the CC +license, especially those available in other parts of the world other than North +American and Japan. FrankW said that he supported making material accessable to +less well resourced academic environments. He thought it would be nice to +produce journal articles that are web viewable, rather than just on paper ( so +we can maximize the use of them ). + +Puneet wondered if our efforts be better spent "negotiating" with the +established journals some kind of more open access for the less well resourced +parts of the world? Instead of forking our own journal. + +Ned said that having a quality newsletter gets content out to the world and it's +doable in the near term. Starting a peer reviewed CC journal is a great idea but +it is a lot of work. I just think that that starting a good newsletter is more +appropriate for where we are at this time. + +Aaron suggested we try to do this all three fronts... Institutional journals, +our own "e-journal" or newsletter, and a wiki for the more up-to-date stuff +people are working on and presenting. Racicot said that most educational +institutions have access to every journal out there, and we are talking about +getting OSGIS seen as more recognised in the edu community. Perry said there's +no reason not to continue publishing on more recognized journals. Gary_Watry +offered to help on the journal if there were one to be established. + +Raghavan mentioned that the OSGeo newsletter (under VisCom) is looking for +contributions. Markus said that the GRASS newletter team is not bringing out the +OSGeo newsletter, but can donate 4 articles. + +The next meeting was set for 8:00 am GMT-6, Friday, August 11, 2006 via IRC. 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From punkish at osgeo.org Sun Jul 9 12:54:19 2006 From: punkish at osgeo.org (punkish@osgeo.org) Date: Fri Dec 22 13:54:15 2006 Subject: svn commit: r41 - trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html Message-ID: <20060709165419.30104.qmail@osgeo.org> Author: punkish Date: 2006-07-09 16:54:19+0000 New Revision: 41 Modified: trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html Log: Modified: trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html Url: https://edu.osgeo.org/source/browse/edu/trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html?view=diff&rev=41&p1=trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html&p2=trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html&r1=40&r2=41 ============================================================================== --- trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html (original) +++ trunk/www/minutes_07_07_2006.html 2006-07-09 16:54:19+0000 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ keep both calendars for now, but since his personal calendar is much easier to update and administer than the OSGeo calendar (because of security permissions), he will publicize the personal calendar. - OSGeo calendar + OSGeo calendar Puneet's personal calendar. 2. Where 2.0 Conference Report: Aaron Racicot reported his perspective