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+ <li><a HREF="minutes_06_09_2006.html" TITLE="meeting minutes">Jun 09, 2006</a></li>
<li><a HREF="minutes_05_12_2006.html" TITLE="meeting minutes">May 12, 2006</a></li>
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+MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE EDUCATION AND CURRICULUM COMMITTEE OF THE OPEN
+SOURCE GEOSPATIAL FOUNDATION
+
+On June 9, 2006, at 8:00 am GMT-6, pursuant to notice duly given, the Education
+and Curriculum Committee (the "Committee") of the Open Source Geospatial
+Foundation (the "Foundation" or "OSGeo") held a meeting by Internet Relay Chat
+(#osgeo on irc.freenode.net).
+
+Present at the meeting were the following members of the "Committee":
+ Helena Mitasova
+ Ari Jolma
+ Tyler Mitchell
+ Perry Nacionales
+ Markus Neteler
+ Puneet Kishor
+ Venkatesh Raghavan
+ Charlie Schweik
+
+Additionally, several other's were observing/"lurking" as usual. The meeting was
+called to order. The following major items were discussed --
+
+1. <b>Dealing with course material:</b> Charlie Schweik wanted to know how to
+get material into MediaWiki as he would like to keep some contol over it for his
+online courses. Currently, he uses a wiki, but would like to allow new
+derivative works albeit with some kind of peer review. Tyler thought that
+getting at least 4-5 other folks to commit to peer reviewing material would be
+helpful. It was suggested that Charlie keep a canonical version under his own
+control, and let a public version be on the wiki. Alternatively, he could just
+put a link on the wiki to point to his version, without forking versions.
+Creative Commons was suggested as the licensing regime under which to publish
+any tutorial work.
+
+2. <b>Conferences:</b> Puneet announced that the North American Cartographic
+Information Society (NACIS) convention will be held in Madison, WI, in October.
+He hopes to get Tyler's brochures for that. Maybe have an official-ish edu booth
+there. Perry also wanted to use the brochures for a conference he will be
+attending in July.
+
+3. <b>Calendar:</b> Puneet presented his "personal" conferences calendar. Use any
+iCal-compliant program to access <a href="http://punkish.eidesis.org/cal_public/conferences.ics">punkish.eidesis.org/cal_public/conferences.ics</a>.
+
+4. <b>Brochure:</b> Tyler has been working hard on the brochure for the
+Where 2.0 conference. Discussion was held on the brochure, and members provided
+useful feedback to Tyler. Specifically, more graphics showing FOSSGIS tools were
+desired. Puneet decided to send out a RFG (request for graphics!) on the
+discussion list. On Charlie's feedback, Puneet decided to make the edu webpage
+more easy to allow joining the committee or subscribing to the list. Tyler
+expressed the need for Flash-based demos such as provided by QGIS.
+
+The next meeting was set for 8:00 am GMT-6, Friday, July 7, 2006 via IRC.
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+MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE EDUCATION AND CURRICULUM COMMITTEE OF THE OPEN
+SOURCE GEOSPATIAL FOUNDATION
+
+On July 7, 2006, at 8:00 am GMT-6, pursuant to notice duly given, the Education
+and Curriculum Committee (the "Committee") of the Open Source Geospatial
+Foundation (the "Foundation" or "OSGeo") held a meeting by Internet Relay Chat
+(#osgeo on irc.freenode.net).
+
+Present at the meeting were the following members of the "Committee":
+ Perry Nacionales
+ Markus Neteler
+ Puneet Kishor
+ Venkatesh Raghavan
+ Jazon
+ Aaron Racicot
+ Gary Watry
+ Allan Doyle
+ crschmidt
+ Ned Horning
+
+Additionally, several other's were observing/"lurking" as usual. The meeting was
+called to order. The following major items were discussed --
+
+1. <b>Calendars:</b> Markus pointed out that there were now two calendars for
+edu meetings, and wanted to confirm which calendar to watch. Puneet is going to
+keep both calendars for now, but since his personal calendar is much easier to
+update and administer than the OSGeo calendar (because of security permissions),
+he will publicize the personal calendar.
+ <https://edu.osgeo.org/source/browse/edu/trunk/www/edu.ics>OSGeo calendar</a>
+ <a href="http://punkish.eidesis.org/cal_public/conferences.ics">Puneet's personal calendar</a>.
+
+2. <b>Where 2.0 Conference Report:</b> Aaron Racicot reported his perspective
+from the recent Where 2.0 conference that he attended. There was quite a bit of
+attendance at the booth with a lot of folks wearing OSGeo shirts. People who had
+never heard of OSGeo were a bit confused as to our relationship to OGC. Most
+people just wanted to hear about the big projects. Turnout was pretty great for
+the talks as well, one on GRASS, Mapbender, Worldwind, Mapguide, GDAL, etc.
+crschmidt mentioned that the Mapbender+Geoserver's talk was very informative,
+light, quick, to the point, and a much better demonstration of OGC tech than OGC
+was able to put together in his opinion. Puneet asked if one could get a sense
+of what kind of unmet desire for osgeo course material/edu type packages is out
+there? were there folks lamenting the lack of such things? Racicot did not
+notice a big "outcry" for more edu materials at the conference, as most people
+there where looking specifically at technology ( i.e. they were already GIS/Web
+professionals ). Most of the people he met from education were actually grad
+students using GIS in their thesis work. adoyle emphasized that it is key to
+educate the students about FOSSGIS so they will demand it when they graduate.
+Puneet wondered if a survey targeting geospatial profs. and lecturers ( esp.
+those NOT currently involved with FOSSGIS ) would be helpful? Should this be
+undertaken as a research project? Raghavan asked if there were any comments
+about OSGeo from the OGC guys who attend Where2.0? adoyle spoke to Louis Hecht
+(OGC bus. development guy). Louis Hecht said Where2.0 really opened his eyes.
+Apparently he's never seen anything like it, not a world he's been exposed to.
+
+
+<b>Other conferences:</b> Gary_Watry mentioned thatAuburn University is willing
+to set up a Open Source track/workshop at their Symposium Oct 31- Nov 1.
+
+Aaron mentioned that he will be at the OSCON conference at the end of the month
+and will be manning the OSGeo booth and giving at talk on OSGeo software at one
+of the sessions. He welcomed any ideas on forwarding the Edu cause.
+
+Perry will be giving a workshop at the Federation of Earth Science Information
+Partners (ESIP) <a href="http://www.esipfed.org">meeting</a> in a couple of
+weeks and would like to take some of the brochures that Tyler had at Where 2.0
+
+3. <b>Get-togethers:</b> Jazon wanted ideas on how to organize seminars on open
+source gis. Specifically, he wanted to know of anyone in the Liverpool area who
+would be interested in giving a talk. Perry suggested announcing the request on
+the discussion list.
+
+Racicot mentioned Portland State University as having a once monthly
+gathering at the university to talk about OSGIS.
+
+Puneet pointed out an informal gathering of osgeo types in Madison, WI.
+<http://www.wearymappers.org>.
+
+Racicot suggested that the best way he has been able to penetrate the
+educational area is to volunteer to go and give a talk personally, and once the
+word gets out the faculty with an open mind ( or curiosity ) toward OSGIS will
+come and ask. He would like a collection of material together so he is not
+giving the same type of talk all the time -- especially, pre-canned templates
+for presentations/lectures would be very important. Puneet suggested the use of
+<a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/">S5: A Simple Standards-Based Slide Show System</a> for
+creating presentation templates.
+
+Perry mentioned that he used to do what Aaron suggested, but without any classes
+that specifically use OSGeo software, it's hard to get people's attention. The
+U of Minnesota is a big ESRI shop.
+
+Gary_Watry mentioned that the new Geography Department Head at FSU is into Open
+Source, so he is setting up meeting to explore including open source in his
+course work both in lab and classroom.
+
+<b>Books:</b> Raghavan said that it is difficult to promote GIS at the Univ.
+without having regular text book. Tyler's Web Mapping recently translated to
+Japanese is the only OSGeo related book available in local language. He said
+that <b>Text book 1: Intro to Open Source Geopatial Software</b> is badly needed.
+Aaron thought that a bigger problem with a book that covers the whole "osgis"
+space is that the technology changes so rapidly. While this is good for the
+author and his/her ability to write new additions, it is not good for the
+prospect of using the book. Targeted books like the GRASS book are great for
+covering very stable long term projects, but projects such as OpenLayers are so
+new that they would not be in a base book released last year. Markus emphasized
+that the GRASS book is even more than a manual, it covers concepts and methods
+as well.
+
+Perry brought attention to EOGEO-hosted <a href="http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/FreeGISBook">FreeGISBook.</a>
+adoyle said that he would like to move it to the OSGeo wiki under a CC license,
+and wanted to know if there was support for such a move. Perry, Raghavan, and
+Puneet expressed support for such a move. FrankW also supported such a move, and
+suggested that it become an edu committee project. Markus wanted to know if the
+book go to the osgeo wiki or to wikibook.osgeo.org. FrankW thought that we need
+to demonstrate our ability to flesh out quality content. Puneet offered to set
+up a FreeGISBook committee link on the edu wiki.
+
+<b>Journal and Newsletter:</b> An OSGeo Journal was suggested and seconded by
+a few members. adoyle expressed a need for "packaged" articles that don't change
+(Journal) as well as "live" stuff that does change (wiki). adoyle also expressed
+a need for peer-reviewed articles. He suggested that with a good rating system,
+the journal could be considered peer reviewed. Aaron supported that as it would
+provide legitimacy in the educational committee. Ned Horning liked idea of a
+journal but suggested that maybe it's better to start with the newsletter and
+let it evolve if that makes sense. There is no shortage of peer reviewed geo
+journals for people who want to publish.
+
+Racicot supported getting work into the established journals. But Raghavan
+mentioned that there is a shortage of peer-reviewed journals under the CC
+license, especially those available in other parts of the world other than North
+American and Japan. FrankW said that he supported making material accessable to
+less well resourced academic environments. He thought it would be nice to
+produce journal articles that are web viewable, rather than just on paper ( so
+we can maximize the use of them ).
+
+Puneet wondered if our efforts be better spent "negotiating" with the
+established journals some kind of more open access for the less well resourced
+parts of the world? Instead of forking our own journal.
+
+Ned said that having a quality newsletter gets content out to the world and it's
+doable in the near term. Starting a peer reviewed CC journal is a great idea but
+it is a lot of work. I just think that that starting a good newsletter is more
+appropriate for where we are at this time.
+
+Aaron suggested we try to do this all three fronts... Institutional journals,
+our own "e-journal" or newsletter, and a wiki for the more up-to-date stuff
+people are working on and presenting. Racicot said that most educational
+institutions have access to every journal out there, and we are talking about
+getting OSGIS seen as more recognised in the edu community. Perry said there's
+no reason not to continue publishing on more recognized journals. Gary_Watry
+offered to help on the journal if there were one to be established.
+
+Raghavan mentioned that the OSGeo newsletter (under VisCom) is looking for
+contributions. Markus said that the GRASS newletter team is not bringing out the
+OSGeo newsletter, but can donate 4 articles.
+
+The next meeting was set for 8:00 am GMT-6, Friday, August 11, 2006 via IRC.
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