[OSGeo-Edu] Re-starting our discussions

Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) tmitchell at osgeo.org
Tue Jan 6 01:50:42 EST 2009

Hi all,
I spent a bit of time to clean up a few more of the fields and the  
search capabilities of the inventory tools.   Not beautiful, but  
functional :)  CSS gurus are welcome to contact me to help improve  
the look and feel.

Search/view: http://www.osgeo.org/educational_content
Submit content: https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content

I left one primary contact email address and reduce the Author(s)  
line to a single line instead of several.  In a few spots I tried to  
simply make the form feel shorter.

Any more ideas?  If a few of us could copy/enter a few items from the  
wiki into here, it would help our search tests look better ;-)


On 15-Dec-08, at 9:21 PM, Mark Leslie wrote:

> I've been hanging back on this to avoid getting sucked into another  
> development project :(  From my perspective I really just need some  
> means of searching or summarizing what's available, what it  
> pertains to, technical depth, format, blah, blah, blah.  Once I can  
> easily sift through what's there, there is more work it selecting  
> it out and getting it packaged up properly for installation.
> The sorting by product and language was a minimal thing.  The age  
> of the material is fairly important, as is the format, so having  
> the entry form to ensure structured data and a search form is ideal.
> Feedback on the form at https://www.osgeo.org/node/add/edu-content:
> * There are multiple authors, but only one contact email.  Is it  
> appropriate to have an email for each author, and is there a need  
> to have a contact that is not the author.
> * Target Audience as selection fields is very nice.
> * Language could be a dropdown.  Alternately, we would need case  
> insensitive search capability.
> * There's potential redundancy, or maybe a need for redundancy,  
> between keyword and software.  I would expect a keyword search for  
> 'QGIS' to find QGIS related material, but I wouldn't expect to  
> enter it in both software AND keyword.
> I'm getting pedantic now, so I'm going to move on to the search:
> As near as I can tell, the current search performs text searching  
> on the Authors list.  I like the simplicity of the interface, but  
> we need to sort out what to search, and I don't think it should be  
> every field. Maybe the title, keywords, software and language by  
> default, with an option to include the description.  This really  
> depends on what the search is capable of doing, and what we want to  
> spend time doing.
> Mark Leslie
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> cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu wrote:
>> Thanks Landon. I'm caught up in end of semester stuff right now.
>> Quoting Sunburned Surveyor <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>:
>>> What is our goal here?
>> Three things have led me to think we need a new educational  
>> inventory delivery
>> mechanism:
>> (1) We've maxed out the wikipage. A while back Maria B. tried to  
>> add a new entry
>> and the wiki warned her that we've reached the length limit.
>> (2) In wanting to start organizing material we have for the DVD  
>> project, Mark
>> Leslie mentioned that the current Educational_Content_Inventory  
>> [1] page
>> "structure makes it hard to quickly scan through."
>> (3) I'd like to get more actual content uploaded on the Subversion  
>> system so we
>> can make progress toward "new derivatives." For example, if we  
>> have the source
>> content for a particular tutorial, we can start to ask OSGeo local  
>> groups to
>> start translating.
>> So, I think the goal is to develop a SEARCHABLE DATABASE OF  
>> So this would require two pages:
>> 1) a page for authors to enter (and edit) their metadata into the  
>> database; and
>> 2) a page for people to search for content that we have inventoried.
>> Finally, since I imagine this is a deep web application that  
>> Google won't
>> inventory, I wonder if we still want the wiki page so people can  
>> find our
>> material via Google searches as well.
>> Does that help? Let me know if my vision seems flawed in some way.
>> Tyler will have to chime in on how this is stored. Tyler, can you  
>> and Landon
>> work together to implement this? How much work will it take? Can  
>> we get a goal
>> for when it might be completed? I'm happy to help on design stuff  
>> if needed.
>> Cheers
>> Charlie
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