[fdo-internals] FDO RFC 16 - FDO Provider for SQLite

Traian Stanev traian.stanev at autodesk.com
Mon Mar 24 17:19:03 EDT 2008


Hi Greg,

I posted a file listing the capabilities of the provider at:

http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/attachment/wiki/FDORfc16/SdxCapabilities.h

I'll write an implementation in a few days (after the schema is decided on, there seems to be some uncertainty there).


Traian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdo-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:fdo-internals-
> bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Greg Boone
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:14 PM
> To: FDO Internals Mail List
> Subject: RE: [fdo-internals] FDO RFC 16 - FDO Provider for SQLite
>
> I was wondering if the RFC can be updated with an implementation plan
> and list of expected capabilities as demonstrated in
> http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc12
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdo-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:fdo-internals-
> bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason Birch
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:35 AM
> To: FDO Internals Mail List; FDO Internals Mail List
> Subject: RE: [fdo-internals] FDO RFC 16 - FDO Provider for SQLite
>
> Frank,
>
> Obviously (?) we're not shooting for SFSQL certification for this
> format, and I'm definitely not a stickler for standards, but I would
> feel better matching the current OGC spec than older the PostGIS
> schema.  Especially given that we are potentially setting a template
> for future spatial storage in non-spatial formats.
>
> There are some problems that mean that we can't just adopt the spec
> wholesale though.
>
> First, the geometry_type field in SFSQL1.2 is very close to TYPE in
> PostGIS, but it uses integer-based lookup.  This looks awfully Oracle-
> ish; not surprising given the editor I guess.  It does support curve
> strings and more (pp 39-41), just as the new WKB spec does.
>
> Second, storage_type in SFSQL1.2 is very close to what we want to
> accomplish with geometry_format, but again is integer-based, and only
> flags whether the geometry is normalised (ick - does anyone actually do
> this?) or WKB (pp 28-29).  We would have to extend this to support WKT
> and FGF.
>
> As far as self-descriptive values go, I agree with you.  Being a
> database geek, I'd personally prefer to see the use of integer codes
> and an FK table of all of the values and their english equivalents
> (which your code would ignore), but since we'd have to mangle the
> specification anyway I guess that I'm not opposed to using varchar in
> these places...
>
> Of course, I'm not building it, so take this as specifications wankery
> if you want.  I should also admit to being almost as annoyed at seeing
> "type" as a field name as I am when I get an Access database with
> "date" as a field name, so the rest of my comments are probably a bit
> bent. ;)
>
> Jason
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Frank Warmerdam
> Subject: Re: [fdo-internals] FDO RFC 16 - FDO Provider for SQLite
>
> The "type" field is based on what I saw in PostGIS.  I'm not sure if it
> is
> described in the SF spec or not.  But, without a fairly specific reason
> to
> be different, I'd prefer to match what PostGIS does so it is easy for
> folks
> who already work with it to understand what is being done in SQLite.
> So,
> based on that I'm not *keen* on changing the field name or the
> contents.
>
> There are various reasons I don't like using integer codes in the
> field.
> First, it is different than PostGIS.  Second, I don't know what sorts
> of
> values to use for odd things like FGF curves.  Third, I find the
> strings
> more self-descriptive than integer codes.
>
> I didn't really understand why you preferred storage_type to
> geometry_format.
> The geometry_format is unique to the sqlite proposal as far as I know,
> so
> if there is a reason for storage_type instead, I'd be quite open to a
> change.  Does this align better with some other format?
>
> BTW, the naming, etc proposed for stuff in sqlite could just as easily
> be applied to any other non-spatial RDBMS type environment.
>
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