[Board] Re: [OSGeo Finance] Financial Statement for 2007

[Arnulf Christl]

On Fri, April 25, 2008 21:13, Dave McIlhagga wrote:
> For the benefit of the board -- here's some exchange that took place
> on the finance committee. I think we can come up with a decent solution
> here. As Arnulf mentioned -- this really needs to happen, and me being a
> bottleneck is not a good solution.
>
> Please pipe in board if anyone has any comments on this.
>
>
> Dave

Thanks for the update. Yet another list I was not subscribed too.

+1

> Ken, Finance group,
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>
> I'm happy to act in the oversight role -- however, it's time for
> detailed financial review, meeting organization, etc... that are concerning
> me. i'll provide examples of things that I think this committee needs to
> do, but I just haven't found time to get my hands dirty on:
>
> - Good quality content on the wiki concerning the Finance committee
> - Organization of committee meetings
> - Preliminary review of quarterly/annual financials vs. budget with
> summaries provided to the committee for questions and acceptance
>
> If you and/or others are able to take on some of these activities --
> I'm more than happy to continue to be the liaison with the board as
> treasurer. I just don't think I have the bandwidth to take on direct
> responsibility for the above or similar activities.
>
> Does this make any sense?
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>
> Thanks Ken btw for helping out.
>
>
> Dave
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> On 25-Apr-08, at 2:26 PM, Ken Tamura wrote:
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>
>> Hello Finance Team,
>> In the event that Dave is not able to take on these
>> responsibilities, I may have bandwidth to take this on.  However, I'm not
>> a board member. And therefore, I give my two cents to this group only.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ken
>>
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> Dave McIlhagga
> President & CEO
> DM Solutions Group (DMSG)
> dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca p: 613-565-5056 x15
> f: 613-565-0925
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> On 25-Apr-08, at 3:03 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>
>> Arnulf Christl wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Dave,
>>> thanks for not just resigning and chucking it all in! Ha, need to add
>>> some more exclamation marks here!!! It is really painful to have to
>>> admit to run on reserve and still get ignored. I wish that I could do
>>> something more useful than mumbling "go on". Paul,
>>> you come to my mind as an option - would you be prepared to take on
>>> this job? A simple No is perfectly fine by me, no need to argument
>>> about it. What other strategies do we have? This job very bluntly
>>> needs to get done. If we cannot find another way we will have to hire
>>> someone to do the job. I am the loudest  opposition to growing
>>> expenses for OSGeo but we cannot afford to let this go astray. I'd
>>> rather invest some time in finding more sponsors than to let this pass
>>> undone. Tyler is not an option for me as he is way too much under
>>> pressure already and I would also prefer to keep a very clear
>>> separation of the ED's job and the treasurer. Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>> Arnulf,
>>
>>
>> I'm fine with the ED doing much of the day to day bookkeeping, or even
>> us hiring a bookkeeper to do some the routine work.  But I don't see that
>>  we can "contract out" the oversight role of the treasurer.  We could
>> contemplate having an outside auditor though I'm not sure that lifts
>> much of the work load.  It just gives the board and members a greater
>> assurance of oversight.
>>
>> I'd also be happy to have Ken as treasurer.
>>
>>
>> One thing I did suggest to Dave is to try and hold on till the board
>> elections are done.  After that the new board should be reselecting our
>> new President, Treasurer and Secretary so putting a different treasurer
>> into place now might be premature.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
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