[Foss4g2009] OCS/Events Conferencing software integration meeting minutes

Wed Aug 6 02:02:39 EDT 2008

Comments inline.

Bruce.Bannerman at dpi.vic.gov.au wrote:
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> IMO:
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> Sorry to be blunt guys.
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> Time is slipping away from us and we need to make a decision one way 
> or the other.
I don't think time is against us yet.
Putting a placemarker website up should not be held back by integration 
with OCS.
Integration with OCS doesn't need to be engaged until we start accepting 
papers & registrations. (in ~ 6 months?)
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> Cameron,
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> Do you have sufficient information to summarise the arguments for a vote?
Integration requires a PHP software developer, ideally with OCS experience.
I've been fishing for a developer to step forward, but so far haven't 
had any bites.
This would be our best solution.

Option 2: We hire a PHP developer to integrate the 2 applications. My 
guess is this will cost ~ 1 to 2 months work. Which in turn will 
increase registration costs by $50/delegate, or by OSGeo paying for the 
development. I don't think either of these options are desirable.

Option 3: Go with Tour Host existing system.
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> If not, what needs to be done to get this information, i.e.:
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> What is known?
A rough design is understood. It will need to be refined by the a 
development team, but I see this as a low risk activity.
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> What is not known?
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> What needs to be found out?
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> What help is needed?
Developer(s) need to be engaged. Ideally open source geeks on their own 
time.
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> Who is available to do each bit?
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> What timeframe are we working to?
Needs to be complete before we open for registration and call for papers.
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> Bruce
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> *Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>*
> Sent by: foss4g2009-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
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> 05/08/2008 07:26 AM
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> 	Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com>
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> 	Janelle Driscoll <jdriscoll at tourhosts.com.au>, foss4g2009 
> <foss4g2009 at lists.osgeo.org>, Gavin Fleming <GavinF at mintek.co.za>, 
> gmcferren at csir.co.za, Denisa Adamova <dadamova at tourhosts.com.au>, 
> Simon Hope <cucumber.sunshine at gmail.com>
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> 	Re: [Foss4g2009] OCS/Events Conferencing software integration meeting 
>        minutes
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> Rrank,
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> Gavin & Graeme explained the idea and hopefully will correct my
> interpretation of a proposed implementation:
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> * OCS will accept user initial registrations.
> * OCS will pass registration details to Tour Hosts' "Events" package,
> and get a userId returned. (API needed here).
> Events package will process finances.
> * OCS will be able to query Events package to determine financial status
> of each member (by passing in the userId). (API needed here). This could
> be a push or pull interface, yet to be determined.
> * OCS will be responsible for processing papers and collecting
> information about delegates.
> * Events system is responsible for processing financial details, booking
> accommodation, and other things I can't remember.
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> Indeed, this work could be quite simple if you have developers who are
> already familiar with the code base. People on the teleconference didn't
> have much experience in PHP.  So yes, with the right hackers, this could
> be done much cheaper that my estimated 1 to 2 months. Do you have such a
> hacker in mind?
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> Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> > Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >> The proposed solution is to use OCS for collecting presentations, and
> >> some of the registration work flow, then hand the rest over to the
> >> ICS software. (I haven't captured all the details here. Will leave
> >> that to someone else). Changes will likely be written in PHP & MySQL,
> >> plus contractors might need to be hired to provide hooks into the
> >> Events system.
> >
> > Cameron,
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> > I don't really have a clear understanding of the integration proposed.
> >
> > My past suggestion has been to handle the presentation collection and
> > management through OCS (something we have experience with), and handle
> > registration completely in the service providers system.  I don't 
> see how
> > this would require any expensive integration.
> >
> > This still leaves some question about whether the "front end" web site
> > is managed by the local service provider's system or OCS.  I'm 
> ambivalent
> > on this issue.
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> > In my optimistic opinion the only integration needed between the systems
> > should be an url at the appropriate points.  I will acknowledge that
> > users may end up with two userids if they are presenting, one to
> > register and one for the presentation management system.
> >
> > The objective - at least in the long term - is to get cheaper service
> > from
> > the service providers since they won't be expected to manage the
> > presentation
> > aspect, and to ensure greater continuity of operation in this aspect.
> >
> > The only integration I anticipate is working to ensure OCS uses the 
> OSGeo
> > LDAP database so that userid/password info is "OSGeo standard".
> >
> > Best regards,
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> -- 
> Cameron Shorter
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