[Workshops] Re: [Foss4g2009] Confused about workshop registration fee

Mon Jul 27 18:52:19 EDT 2009

I think the "support team" list is the best way to go; but it is going to be Mark's decision as he is running this part of the show.

Jody

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From: foss4g2009-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:foss4g2009-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tim Schaub
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2009 2:19 AM
To: FOSS4G conference workshops subcommittee
Cc: foss4g2009
Subject: Re: [Workshops] Re: [Foss4g2009] Confused about workshop registration fee

Hey-

Jody Garnett wrote:
> Well one suggestion is that if you have helpers for your workshop; they are your volunteers and you should feed them? There are lots of nearby eating establishments.
> 
> It is a pity since having volunteers is often the difference between one user having workstation troubles and a successful workshop.
> 

Right.  If we can give a (short) list of volunteers for each workshop, I 
was imaging those people would be allowed in - but wouldn't get any 
other of the perks of a paying participant (I certainly wouldn't expect 
the conference to feed me if I didn't pay).

I understand the budget constraints - and am not trying to increase the 
burden.  I do believe it makes a big difference to have a well supported 
workshop.  I hope there is a way it can be done without increasing costs.

Tim

> Jody
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: conference-workshops-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:conference-workshops-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Mark Leslie
> Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 12:25 PM
> To: foss4g2009
> Cc: FOSS4G conference workshops subcommittee
> Subject: [Workshops] Re: [Foss4g2009] Confused about workshop registration fee
> 
> Thierry Badard wrote:
>> Tim Schaub a écrit :
>>> Hey-
>>>
>>> Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>> Roald de Wit wrote:
>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just about to register for the conference and was confronted 
>>>>> with the question whether or not to pay the registration fee for the 
>>>>> workshops. I will be co-hosting an accepted workshop, by being the 
>>>>> assistant.
>>>>>
>>>>> My questions are:
>>>>> - When you are a co-host of a workshop, do you have to pay to attend 
>>>>> that workshop?
>>>>> - We had an offer from somebody else to help out by providing 
>>>>> assistance during the workshop. What about this person?
>>>>> - When I want to visit 1 or 2 other workshops, do I have to pay the 
>>>>> fee (being a co-host) for another workshop?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure there must be a section on the site that covers this, but I 
>>>>> couldn't find it.
>>>>>
>>>> Hello Roald,
>>>>
>>>> You should have received an email from Mark Leslie (I've included the 
>>>> email below) explaining workshop registration.
>>>>
>>> I received the same email, just reviewed it, and am left wondering the 
>>> same.  If someone is co-presenting a workshop, do they need to pay for 
>>> workshop registration?  I would assume not?
>>>
>>> My read of the email from Mark is that there is one free *conference* 
>>> registration per workshop (though it says workshop registration).  I 
>>> understand that only one presenter per workshop gets the registration 
>>> to the conference waived.  Roald's (and my) questions are about 
>>> getting co-presenters a pass to the workshop only (not the rest of the 
>>> conference).
>>>
>>> Last year, we had great success with the OpenLayers workshop because 
>>> 10 or so developers and power-users volunteered to help out with the 
>>> workshop.  Their assistance (walking around the crowd and answering 
>>> questions) was invaluable.  In addition to a co-presenter, will there 
>>> be any way to get additional volunteers a pass to a specific workshop?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some replies seem to be available at:
>>
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Discounts#Workshop_Instructors
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Th.
>>
> 
>  From the stand-point of registering, you aren't registering for 
> workshops, so you don't need to sign up for those.  That's for actual 
> seats at the workshop.  I've passed along the names of all the free 
> conference passes on, as well as all those currently slated to be 
> helping out.  I see no reason you couldn't sign up to attend a workshop 
> that doesn't overlap your own if you like, but you will be charged for 
> it.  Where things are a bit fuzzy right now are for volunteers that 
> _are_not_ listed on the workshop submissions.
> 
> The issue here is that it's not actually free to have people there. 
> There's administrative and feeding costs involved, which are 
> non-trivial.  Having 5 assistants for each workshop would appreciably 
> increase our costs.  Charging them for volunteering doesn't seem quite 
> right.  Getting them nametags identifying them as do-not-feeds would 
> reduce the costs to admin only, but isn't a nice "thank-you for 
> helping".  I'm open to other suggestions.
> 
> Mark Leslie
> Geospatial Software Architect
> LISAsoft
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