[Foss4g2012] RE: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri May 25 17:55:00 EDT 2012


Has the board decided what is happening with the AGM and Sol Katz award?

On 26/05/2012 7:50 AM, Jo Cook wrote:
>
> I like, but I would like a statement on what we intend to do about the 
> AGM etc if it's not going to be in Beijing
>
> Jo
>
> On 25 May 2012 21:31, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com 
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Here is a proposed draft email, probably to be sent by Arnulf on
>     behalf on the board. Feel free to reword as you see fit:
>
>     Title: FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing - categorised as a Regional FOSS4G
>
>     Body:
>
>     In the interests of transparency, the OSGeo board are noting that
>     FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing is being considered by the OSGeo Board as a
>     "Regional FOSS4G Event", rather than as the "International FOSS4G
>     event". This means that the OSGeo Annual General Meeting, and Sol
>     Katz award will not be included as part of the program, and
>     possibly means that there will be less international presence than
>     at the FOSS4G International event.
>
>     That said, we do anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will be a
>     successful regional event, drawing heavily upon the local region
>     for attendance.
>
>     The growth and maturity of OSGeo software and following interest
>     from business, educational and government has been fanning a
>     rising demand for the FOSS4G conference. This demand has led
>     initially to the development of an international conference -
>     first titled FOSS4G in 2006 in Switzerland. By 2009 it was
>     becoming apparent that FOSS4G attracted a very high local
>     attendance who made up over half the audience. These local
>     attendees usually were obviously interested in FOSS4G, but were
>     not attending the international event. By 2011/2012 many
>     successful regional FOSS4G events have been running, which have
>     been capitalising on the previously untapped local interest.
>
>     As such, we anticipate that FOSS4G Beijing will similarly be
>     successful in capturing the regional interest in FOSS4G and will
>     stage a compelling regional FOSS4G event. We do encourage all who
>     are interested to attend.
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 26/05/2012 5:44 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
>>
>>     OK, I’ll make an official motion.
>>
>>     PROPOSED:   There will be no annual, international FOSS4G event
>>     this year. There will be a regional OSGeo conference in Beijing
>>     in September 2012, but it will not include an Annual General
>>     Meeting nor will the Sol Katz award be announced there.
>>
>>     My motion does not lay blame, point fingers, or attempt a
>>     rationale; it simply states the facts as they are.
>>
>>     -mpg
>>
>>     *From:*conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>     <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>     [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of
>>     *seven at arnulf.us <mailto:seven at arnulf.us>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, May 25, 2012 12:28 PM
>>     *To:* 'conference'; OSGeo Board
>>     *Cc:* 'FOSS4G 2012'
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
>>     regional event
>>
>>     Hi,
>>     there is no motion on the floor. My intention is simply to follow
>>     up on a standing request by many people who keep asking about the
>>     event in Beijing. In the absence of a functioning conference
>>     committee I believe it is the board's job to answer.
>>
>>     I have no intention of discouraging anybody going there but it is
>>     not going to be comparable to previous global events. Whoever has
>>     the capacities to make it so please step up. Now. We need an AGM,
>>     international keynoters, some board representation, Sol Katz
>>     Award event and other stuff I currently cannot see and am not
>>     expecting anymore.
>>
>>     Where is the problem in being honest about this? I can already
>>     see the frustration of people and corresponding media reports
>>     after the fact saying that we have 'failed'. No need for this.
>>
>>     If someone else sees the need for an official note please take
>>     over, it is not that important to me.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Arnulf
>>
>>     --
>>     Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
>>     http://arnulf.us
>>
>>     ----- Reply message -----
>>     From: "Michael P. Gerlek" <mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>>
>>     To: "'Tim Schaub'" <tschaub at opengeo.org <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org>>
>>     Cc: "'conference'" <conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org
>>     <mailto:conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>>, "'FOSS4G 2012'"
>>     <foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:foss4g2012 at lists.osgeo.org>>,
>>     <board at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>     Subject: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
>>     Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 20:20
>>
>>
>>     We need to set people's expectations that this is not the usual
>>     annual global event at which there will be large number of
>>     international attendees, the Sol Katz Award, the annual general
>>     meeting, etc.
>>
>>     -mpg
>>
>>
>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>     > From: Tim Schaub [mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]
>>     <mailto:[mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org]>
>>     > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:19 AM
>>     > To: mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>
>>     > Cc: conference; FOSS4G 2012; board at lists.osgeo.org
>>     <mailto:board at lists.osgeo.org>
>>     > Subject: Re: [Board] RE: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a
>>     regional event
>>     >
>>     > What would be the desired outcome of any motion we could make?
>>      Do you
>>     > want to encourage people not to attend?  I doubt that.  Is this
>>     just
>>     > about conveying disappointment?
>>     >
>>     > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Michael P. Gerlek
>>     <mpg at flaxen.com <mailto:mpg at flaxen.com>> wrote:
>>     > >> This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional event at best
>>     > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to
>>     be ''the''
>>     > >> global meeting of the tribes.
>>     > >
>>     > > Agreed, I've been saying as much for a while now. I think the
>>     board needs to formally make that announcement asap -- perhaps a
>>     > motion is in order?
>>     > >
>>     > > -mpg
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >> -----Original Message-----
>>     > >> From: conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>     <mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>     [mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]
>>     <mailto:[mailto:conference_dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org]> On
>>     Behalf Of Seven (aka
>>     > Arnulf)
>>     > >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:06 AM
>>     > >> To: conference; FOSS4G 2012
>>     > >> Subject: [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G Beijing - a regional event
>>     > >>
>>     > >> Folks,
>>     > >> on the website at http://2012.foss4g.org/ there is still no
>>     option for
>>     > >> submitting abstracts although the submission has been opened -
>>     > >> apparently without notice to any of the regular OSGeo channels.
>>     > >> Workshops submission ends in two weeks.
>>     > >>
>>     > >> No international speakers have been announced and there are
>>     only Chinese
>>     > >> sponsors listed (although interest by regulars was
>>     documented as early
>>     > >> as December 2012). This makes FOSS4G in Beijing a regional
>>     event at best
>>     > >> and I believe we must make clear that this is not going to
>>     be ''the''
>>     > >> global meeting of the tribes.
>>     > >>
>>     > >> We should at the same time continue to support FOSS4G in
>>     Beijing as a
>>     > >> regional event and help them wherever they let us.
>>     > >>
>>     > >> On http://2012.foss4g.org/ the link to the OSGeo Wiki page
>>     in the lower
>>     > >> right should be removed as it is not being used (and
>>     currently points to
>>     > >> a 404).
>>     > >>
>>     > >> Best regards,
>>     > >> Arnulf
>>     > >>
>>     > >> --
>>     > >> Exploring Space, Time and Mind
>>     > >> http://arnulf.us
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>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Tim Schaub
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